WOW What A Bow!!!

or maybe flower petals opening and closing as the sun rises and sets. :lol:

Atmospheric optics is no more weather than meteors or aurorea. I'm trying to think of a nice way to say this but I can't so I'll just do my brick through a window trick and say it like I see it. Trying to prevent people posting on atmospheric optics is elitist and hence below this site.

People have had no problems considering satelite observing Astronomy, it isn't, it's just plane spotting really. Ban that. NLCs are obviusly not acceptable either, they are just clouds, ban those. Shooting stars, they are not in space, ban those. Aurorae, nope, happen in the atmosphere, out with that too. If that's the line the majority think these boards should take, fair enough but I doubt I'd be hanging around too long under that regime.

What exactly is the difference between the interactions of the sun, a STAR, and the atmosphere (a dense nebula) and 'real astronomy'?

As for the example of posting pictures of your car, should you shoot it into orbit or build a telescope onto it then by all means go for it.

Bring back the separate board and let those of us who enjoy this aspect of sky watching enjoy it and stop telling us we're not astronomers because we don't fit your deffinition. Live and let live!

As for a mod ot ignore people, that idea is quite frankly discusting. Talk about an un-friendly atmosphere!

+2! Or maybe we could have a board which Seanie cant get access to :lol:

The UK Weather World admin section!

+2! Or maybe we could have a board which Seanie cant get access to :lol:

The UK Weather World admin section!

Na seaine im only joking! In a more serious note, how many times has this sort of thread been started. Its not appealing for new people to post, it's not friendly and it really needs to come to a hault. Can this be the last thread or last section of remarks...?

Then again we do need to be careful here with this "atmospherics" forum, I would not consider noctilucent clouds and aurora in the same league as rainbows/sunsets or normal clouds, maybe a "weather" forum would be more appropriate?

Atmospheric optics is no more weather than meteors or aurorea.............

I think there is a lack of understanding here!

Without sounding bitchy...

Atmospherics concern phenomenae that occur due to the presence of an atmosphere, and interaction of from external sources, some astronomical

Weather phenomenae occur within our atmosphere, from all kinds of forces - of nature.

Aurorae and meteors can be classified as atmospheric, as their origin is purely astronomical or astrophysical, and not from within or below our atmosphere.

Now, you might say "sure the bloody sun is causing rainbows". True, but rainbows don't come from the sun. Aurorae do. The sun just happens to be in the way while it is raining (for the most part). Therefore I'd put rainbows in the same class as other weather-based phenomenae, not atmospheric.

And Noctilucent Clouds have some rather strong evidence that their formation is, for the greater part, attributed to meteoroid dust in the highest levels of our atmosphere. If it wasn't for shooting stars, chances are we wouldn't have NLC's. Atmospheric.

Sun Pillars, Moon Halos, NLCs, even aurorae - Atmospheric

Rainbows, Clouds, Crepescular Rays, and even Sundogs - Weather.

Thats something I have often understood between the two - and its not made up.

So, I'll let Martin and Conor bash me up now!

Seanie.