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19 years 10 months ago #2788 by BrianOHalloran
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Hi all.

Today a certain Irish-based astronomy club signed everyone up at Dunsink without our consent to their email mailing list. When I complained, the proprietor 'apologised' in a rather arrogant, dismissive way. Given the strong links between the amateur and professional community (and I like to thing I've a foot in both camps), the attitude and actions of this club have saddened me greatly - flooding us with spam is a wondeful way of driving a wedge between both groups. Comments are welcome .....

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Brian

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19 years 10 months ago #2797 by stepryan
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brian,
if we are thinking of the same group it would not be the first time that he has done this, i think there was a post about this somewhere else on the site. what his goal was we can only speculate, maybe he is getting desperate and trying to pretend that he has some connection with professional astronomy in ireland.
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19 years 10 months ago #2799 by BrianOHalloran
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Hi Stephen,
we are indeed thinking of the same group! I wasn't particularly impressed with them before, after today, well I somehow suspect I won't be invited to give a talk to them anytime soon ;) As for his motives, well, we can only guess....

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Brian

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19 years 10 months ago #2809 by albertw
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They may not be doing as well as before alright, only boasting 200 at their most recent star-b-q compared to the 500 last time.

Though they will continue to be successful as for example they are the only group organising nationwide venus transit watches. I've send mails and posts trying to get accurate contact details for clubs, and details of any transit watches so IFAS clubs can be promoted and sent a couple of posters etc. from the ESO and to date less than half of the clubs have returned my emails.

No idea what they hoped to achieve by spamming Dunsink though, seems like shooting themselves in the foot. Ironic that they dont return my emails mind you!

Cheers,
~Al

Albert White MSc FRAS
Chairperson, International Dark Sky Association - Irish Section
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19 years 10 months ago #2811 by spculleton
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They often boasted about having 200+ at the star-b-qs in Djouce, and the Roundwood star-b-q, which I attended last august (hangs head in shame) didn't, by any stretch, have 500 at it. The prices have steadily climbed too. I think the recent event was Euro 30. That's Euro 6,000, minus negligible expenses, minus insurance, and minus whatever else costs they had. It still leads to a nice little earner for the largest astronomy club, or is it society, or is it limited company, or is it dissolved limited company in Ireland.

With all these earnings, why do they need donations? What kind of overheads must they have if they are constantly calling for donations? 200 attendees out of a claimed 8,000 members means that only 2.5% of A I members attended. This whole "by head of population" thing can bite one in the ass, can it not!

The spamming is just an indication of their poor tactics regarding publicity. If I was working in Dunsink I'd complain to the list manager at DCU.

Shane Culleton.

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19 years 10 months ago #2812 by stepryan
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They often boasted about having 200+ at the star-b-qs in Djouce, and the Roundwood star-b-q, which I attended last august (hangs head in shame) didn't, by any stretch, have 500 at it. The prices have steadily climbed too. I think the recent event was Euro 30. That's Euro 6,000, minus negligible expenses, minus insurance, and minus whatever else costs they had. It still leads to a nice little earner for the largest astronomy club, or is it society, or is it limited company, or is it dissolved limited company in Ireland.

With all these earnings, why do they need donations? What kind of overheads must they have if they are constantly calling for donations? 200 attendees out of a claimed 8,000 members means that only 2.5% of A I members attended. This whole "by head of population" thing can bite one in the ass, can it not!

The spamming is just an indication of their poor tactics regarding publicity. If I was working in Dunsink I'd complain to the list manager at DCU.


maybe people are finally catching on to him at last. you can't go on forever overcharging people and them not finally catch onto you. if he is hitting the rocks then it is good for us as the number of alternatives seem to be increasing steadily. as shane said i would find out in dcu who is incharge of the lists as opposed to those running it for him and make an offical complaint. if he is allowed to get away with it he will try again. if enough people register a complaint against him when they are spammed the people in charge might change their mind about him using public resources to run a mailing list for a shop/magazine/club ?. it is not as if he cannot afford it .
stephen.

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