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[The following text has been mercilesly swiped from John Flannerys article on www.science.ie]

A total eclipse of the Moon for National Science Week
8 November 2003 - 8 November 2003

A quick glance skyward close to midnight of Saturday, 8th November 2003 may reveal that all is not well with lovely Luna. Darkness creeps across her face as she immerses herself in the cone of the Earth’s shadow splayed into space and undergoes a prescient total lunar eclipse to open the celebrations of National Science Week for 2003. This is the second total lunar eclipse of 2003 (May’s was clouded out!)

Tales of fear and dread - Lunar eclipses, while no longer of any major scientific importance, have a special appeal for even the most casual sky watcher among us. As the Earth's shadow glides across the moon's face, our senses are heightened to the effects. The blaze of stars bursting forth as the sky darkens, no longer awash with the glare of the Full Moon. The subtle colourings of the lunar disk — maybe the edge of the Earth's shadow tinged with rainbow like hues caused by clouds at the Earth's limb breaking up sunlight into a kaleidoscope of colour. No longer are we in fear of what robs the moon of its light.

The blood red colour of the lunar disk during an eclipse is what probably gave rise to early beliefs that it was being attacked by an invisible creature. To this end, it was thought that creating a chorus of noise would frighten the creature away. The Chinese idea that a dragon was responsible was a widespread theme. People took to banging pots and pans in an effort to scare off the beast.

Other interpretations of eclipses were common. In Tonga, clouds alone were believed to cause an eclipse while the tribes of the Kalahari thought that the moon had suffered an illness. Some peoples of the Middle East believed that the moon showed its displeasure with events on Earth by temporarily turning its face away from us while others thought the moon painted her face to hide from some celestial danger.

Columbus and the eclipse - Eclipses have influenced numerous events in world history. Probably one of the more famous instances of someone using their knowledge of a lunar eclipse to help them in a tricky situation occurred when Christopher Columbus was on his fourth voyage to the New World.

The great seafarer was in desperate straits in the autumn of 1503. His tiny fleet was unseaworthy due to shipworm and after abandoning two of his vessels he beached the others on the island of Jamaica. After six months as castaways, half the crew mutinied, engaged in pitched battles with those loyal to Columbus and robbed and murdered the natives of the island. Lack of trade worthy goods and the depredations of the mutineers caused the Jamaicans to stop supplying Columbus and his crew with food.

It was during this dire situation that a moment of inspiration came to Columbus. While thumbing through his nautical almanac he noticed that a total lunar eclipse was due to fall on the 29th of February 1504. Three days before the eclipse was due he told the native chiefs that the Christian god was angry with the populace for not helping the visitors to their shores and would give a clear sign in the heavens. On the appointed evening, the Moon duly became “inflamed with wrath” and the native chiefs implored Columbus to restore the Moon’s light. Following his “success”, the islanders kept Columbus and his crew supplied with food until a relief ship arrived.

What is a lunar eclipse? A total lunar eclipse occurs when the Moon passes through the shadow of the Earth cast into space. This means that we can only get a lunar eclipse during time of Full Moon when the Sun, Earth and Moon are in a straight line.

We don’t get a solar or lunar eclipse every month however because the orbit of the Moon about the Earth is tilted with respect to the Earth’s equator. During a total lunar eclipse our atmosphere acts like a lens bending sunlight around the Earth’s limb onto the Moon. Longer wavelengths of light (red and orange) penetrate our atmosphere better than shorter (blue) so during totality the Moon takes on a reddish-orange hue.

The effect is similar to the reddening of the setting Sun. It once led someone to comment that the red colour of the eclipsed Moon is due to all the sunrises and sunsets around the world being painted on the Moon — a rather nice and perceptive observation.

Eclipse phenomena - Normally the glare of the Full Moon floods the sky and washes out all but the brighter stars. During totality however, many fainter stellar pinpoints burst into view when the light of the lunar disk is dimmed.

Very little dimming is noticed during the initial stages of a lunar eclipse as the Moon slides through the penumbral, or outer, portion of the Earth’s shadow. Thereafter, you will begin to see a slight darkening at the leading limb as the Moon slips deeper into eclipse. This is when we anticipate the dramatic play of effects on the lunar disk.

If the Moon passes well north or south of the centre of the Earth’s shadow then the contrast between both hemispheres can be quite marked with the tones graded from bright to dark across the disk.

The Danjon scale - Atmospheric conditions at the Earth’s limb can often have an effect on the visibility of the Moon during an eclipse. The brightness of lunar eclipses can be rated according to a scale devised by the French astronomer Antoine Danjon in the early twentieth century. It is graded as follows:

L = 0: Very dark eclipse; Moon hardly visible, especially near mid-totality.

L = 1: Dark eclipse; grey-to-brown colouring; details on the disk hardly visible

L = 2: Dark red or rust coloured eclipse with dark areas in the shadow centre, the edge brighter

L = 3: Brick red eclipse, the shadow often bordered with a yellow edge

L = 4: Orange or copper-coloured, very bright eclipse with bluish edge

If anyone would like to do a little science then the Danjon scale is a very useful measurement of eclipse brightness. The key is to carry out your estimation on the scale as close to mid-eclipse as possible. Make a note too whether each lunar hemisphere deserves a Danjon scale grading of its own.

Dust and ash ejected into the atmosphere from the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the Philippines during 1991 led to dark eclipses in the following years. The lunar eclipse of December 1992 which was visible from Ireland was rated as L=0.5 by many observers.

The lunar eclipse on the night of November 8th

Penumbral eclipse begins 22:15:00 Partial eclipse begins 23:32:21

Totality begins 01:06:07

Totality ends 01:30:38

Partial eclipse ends 03:04:24

Penumbral eclipse ends 04:21:48

The table here highlights the sequence of events during the evening. Very little dimming of the lunar disk will be noticed before 11pm but thereafter, you will begin to see a slight darkening on the left limb of the Moon as the shadow slowly creeps across the Moon’s face. Totality is in the early hours of November 9th. The Moon barely dips into the southern part of the Earth’s umbral shadow as totality lasts a relatively brief 25 minutes. Expect the lunar disk to have a bright rim along its southern edge.

For the record, two total lunar eclipses are also visible from here on May 4th and October 28th, 2004. More on eclipses from Fred Espenak’s website — sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/eclipse.html


Location:
midnight Saturday, 8th November 2003

Organisers:
John Flannery, South Dublin Astronomical Society (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)
Albert White MSc FRAS
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Location:
midnight Saturday, 8th November 2003
Organisers:
John Flannery, South Dublin Astronomical Society (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)


I'm puzzled by the last bit - no "Location" shown and "midnight" is a bit late as the eclipse is well under way at that time. Wonder if John is organising anything. As it's a Saturday night, perhaps we should all meet up somewhere?

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Anybody interested in meeting at a reasonably light pollution free area in the Cork area(if we can find one)
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Replied by johnflannery on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

hi Gordon and everyone,

the format of the science.ie website unfortunately is laid out in such a way that the "organiser", "location", etc. is keyed generally for events that may be a club meeting, etc.

I pointed out the oddity of this to them before when they had a post about the Mars close approach at the end of August and the "organiser" was one of the astronomy clubs in the country!

in jest, I commented to others after the article was posted that I had inherited super powers to move the planets in their courses (now if I could only figure out how to banish that darn cloud!)

as for a meeting venue on the night, some of the Gonzaga students were keen on a Bar-B-Que but did not know at the time how late the eclipse was. However, I'm going to throw the house in Terenure open to an eclipse-party on the night and there's a viewing spot out in the car park here. I can't invite all and sundry however 'cause of it being a residential area but if anyone wants to privately mail me in the group about it or come along to the SDAS meeting this Thursday I'll give out the details.

btw, have some aurora shots in the files section now as well as a pic of the May 31 annular eclipse from N. Scotland (deep partial phase).

cya,

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Thanks John, i knew u would understand, Terenure looks fine although a bit far away, can I bring about 10 Cork astronomy club culchies along ??
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Replied by voyager on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

OK, I'm all confused now, is the eclipse on on the night from Friday into Saturday or from Saturday into Sunday?????

HELP!

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It's on Saturday night (the night between Saturday and Sunday) :lol:
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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

Hi,

Heres an interesting project from Pete Lawrence that appeared on uk.sci.astronomy that some of you may be inteested in participating in. Note Pete doesnt want images sent to him initially, though you can always upload them to the files section here!

Cheers,
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Subject:Lunar eclipse images wanted...
From:Pete Lawrence <pete.lawrence_nospam_@pbl33.co.uk>
Reply-To:pete.lawrence_nospam_@pbl33.co.uk
Date:Wednesday 05 November 2003 14:44:23
Groups:sci.astro.amateur,uk.sci.astronomy

Lunar Parallax Demonstration Project

[Purpose]
To demonstrate lunar parallax (the apparent shift in the Moon's
position when observing it from different positions on the Earth's
surface) using contributed images of the Moon against a fixed
star-field.

[Project Image Contributions]
If you want to contribute to this project, all that is required is an
image of the Moon to be taken, during the totality phase of the next
lunar eclipse on the 8/9th November 2003, that shows the Moon and at
least two stars in the same image field.

Totality is predicted for 01:06 - 01:31 UT on the 9th Nov. In order
to make sure that all photos are taken at the same time, using an
accurately set watch, please try and capture a Moon/star-field image
at 01:10, 01:15, 01:20, 01:25, 01:30.

Ideally, the 01:20 image is the one that is wanted (the others are
safety net images ;-) ). If you cannot get a photo of the Moon and
stars in the same exposure, image one exposure for the Moon and
immediately take another, exposed for the stars (i.e. over exposing
the Moon).

The Moon's diameter should be as large as possible in the image frame
with at least two identifiable stars in the field. However, any image
that shows two stars and a distinct lunar disk will be ok.

If you get a result and want it to be used in the project, please let
me know by email (don't send any images yet) to pete dot lawrence at
pbl33 dot co dot uk, putting the word "parallax" in the subject header
of your email. Please don't send me photos unless I come back and ask
for them!

Your email should also indicate the time you took the image and your
location (lat/long if possible).

If anyone's interested, here's a link to a previous international
imaging project that I co-ordinated.

<homepage.ntlworld.com/p.lawrence1/planetanim/animintro.html>;

Thanks in advance to all contributors.


Pete
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Albert White MSc FRAS
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Replied by jhonan on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

Still cloudy here in S. Dublin (22:40 Sat 8th Nov)

The following website (in Norway) has a live video feed of the moon updated every couple of minutes:

www.astronomi.no/live/

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Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

Thanks a million for that John.
I'm clouded out down here near Urlingford (Tipp/Kilkenny border)
At least now I can say I saw it anyway :wink:
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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

Good to hear the someone else saw it, we had cloud here in Limerick at 7.30 pm but with small gaps heading in a northerly direction.

Con Buckley and I decided to go “cloud gap” chasing by heading in a northerly direction, we saw to moon before totality and saw it again half inside totality, but that was it.

Blanket cloud then came along and spoiled the rest of the view.



BTW, we ended up in Roscommon, if we’d know it was clear where you were, we might have headed in your direction.

Maybe IFAS should designate someone in each club as “local weathermen” where people in IFAS can ring and find out if it’s clear in other areas???

In our desperation, while in Athlone, we rung the local Garda station in Sligo to see if they could see the moon, they were surprisingly helpful and co-operative, and said that they had a look themselves before we rang but could see nothing but cloud (saved us a 3 hour round trip) , we’ll just have to wait until May next year for the next one.
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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

I know we occasionally criticise RTE and others for their questionable sources and simply wrong information, but they arnt as bad as C4. This from uk.sci.astronomy

Anyone see the lunar eclipse animation on the Channel 4 news this evening? I've seen many lunar eclipses, but never one quite like this one will be. A circular shadow, the same size as the lunar disc, will slide over the Moon, blotting it out. At the instant of totality, a lunar corona will show outside the shadow.

And there was me resigned to having to put up with the usual old
copper-coloured thing that lasts far too long for my modern attention
span. Bummer!


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Replied by johnflannery on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

Dave Lillis mentioned in his post about the May total lunar eclipse in 2004. Unfortunately, we'll run into problems with this one too regardless of the weather!

from my Sky-High 2004 publication (twilight time is for Dublin);


"Moonrise is just round about when totality begins for the May 4th eclipse and so we will see most of the total phase with the sky still brightly twilit. We also miss the pre-totality partial stages. Nautical twilight ends at 21h 38m that evening (Sun 12° below horizon).

Observers in Namibia witness an extremely rare event during totality of the May 4th eclipse — a graze occultation of the wide double star Alpha2,1 Librae."

the other 2004 total lunar eclipse is on October 28th in the early hours. We then have a wait until 2007 March 3rd. I know Brian Seales and a few others will be in Madagascar for the May 4th event (main trip is for the April 19th "shark fin" partial solar eclipse at sunset). Sounds pretty neat!


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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

At least we'll catch the second half of the eclipse (according the starry night pro) in a blue sunsetting sky, beats nothing, especially given that there will be a scarcity of eclipses in the next few years.
Might prove to be an interesting photographic test.
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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Lunar Eclipse 8th November

The results of the Lunar Parallax experiment have been posted.

homepage.ntlworld.com/p.lawrence1/lunar_parallax.html

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