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Waterford City Development Plan was created by ctr

The Waterford city development plan is inviting submissions and I was intending to send one in on light pollution.

I wondered if anyone has a copy (time is a problem as it over due now :? ) in a word format that I could doctor to make it relevant.

And If they would not mind me using it as to be honest I'm not great at writing up documents like this in the required format.

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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

Have a look at:

Submission to DunLaoghaire and Rathdown County Council on their Draft Development Plan October 2003

irishastronomy.org/ilpac/Documents/dlrcoco.pdf

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Submission to Clare County Council by Colm O'Brien, August 2003.

irishastronomy.org/ilpac/Documents/ClareCoCo.pdf

The submission guidelines were different for each.

This should give you an idea how to approach this, feel free to cut and paste and if you need any more information just ask!
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Lads, I have a copy of Albert's letter to dick roche written some time ago (Dec 2004) addressing this issue in word format, could I e-mail it to Conor???

I would be so glad to do this, I'm from Waterford city myself, down at home last week for the hols, the light pollution is just getting worse, so much worse than when I left only 6 years ago :roll:

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Received that thanks Keith :wink:

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Hope it helps, I find that if there is am emphasis put on cost !! they might listen

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I'm from Waterford city myself, down at home last week for the hols, the light pollution is just getting worse, so much worse than when I left only 6 years ago :roll:

Keith..


I know what you mean, I have friends living on the east side of Limerick city and the light pollution just seems to get worse on a monthy basis, I put it down to constant stream of new housing estates been built.
My side of town is not as bad thankfully, this I put down to (from hearsay) clare and limerick counsils never agreing on anything so there is little building near me :lol: ... Long live bureaucracy. !!
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We should have 132 counties in Ireland :P Same in Waterford City, whereby Kilkenny is only one mile away, on the north of the city, building stops barely into kilkenny teritory...Make more counties!!!!

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Replied by ctr on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

OK

I've completed document in a Word format.

Basically (as I had no time due to going into hospital :? ) a bastardised version of Als.

Anyone like to proof read it and/or convert it to a PDF?

Also the link to the institute of light engineers is not working anyone got the new link? www.ile.org.uk/lighting_technical.htm

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TO convert to pdf:

www.cutepdf.com
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Thanks :D

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Feel free to e-mail me a draft and I'll take a look at it if you like.

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Looks very good to me Conor!
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thanks ..... Al :wink:

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Excellent Conor ! Here's hoping for a positive response.

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Replied by ctr on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

Just an update, I got a holding letter to the effect I was too late for initial submissions but can resubmit in a few months.

I will definitely do this.

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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

Just an update, I got a holding letter to the effect I was too late for initial submissions but can resubmit in a few months.

I will definitely do this.


Thanks Conor. Keep up the good work!
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A few months it is then ! I was down home over the weekend, that new outer ring road does'nt help :roll:

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Replied by ctr on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

If you look though, the Light fittings on the roundabouts seem to be full cutoff.
However the oldest section is not.

And hopefully the new lights going in will be full cut off also.

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Well full cut off is fair enough
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Replied by albertw on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

If you look though, the Light fittings on the roundabouts seem to be full cutoff.
However the oldest section is not.

And hopefully the new lights going in will be full cut off also.


The NRA told me that they are only lighting interchanges on new roads and even then they will be using full cut off flat lamps. If they are not let me know and I'll see whats changed.

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Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: Waterford City Development Plan

That would appear to be the case alright. The 2x3 lanes from Dublin to Naas are now lit up with full cut-off lighting.
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At least on the positive front, I see full cut off light going up everywhere there is development, outside many new department stores and industrial parks.

The problem still is the sheer number of them :roll:

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At least on the positive front, I see full cut off light going up everywhere there is development, outside many new department stores and industrial parks.


Where? Lighting seems to be getting a bit better around Dublin, but not too many FCO's.

The problem still is the sheer number of them :roll:


And that they are more than likley on 100% fo the time.
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