Bad LPS Light

13 years 6 months ago #32588 by JohnONeill
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Hi,
Its used to be nice & dark, now my back garden (in Rush) is nearly all illuminated by a LPS street light.

Any ideas?

John

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13 years 6 months ago #32589 by Seanie_Morris
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Black widow catapults work ok. They are quieter than BB guns, and a lot less obvious than hunting rifles. :D

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13 years 6 months ago #32590 by carlobeirnes
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do what i do take the fuse out of the street light outside your house but dont get cot works a treat
carl

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13 years 6 months ago #32593 by pmgisme
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On a more serious note, the following is a link to a document in An Bord Pleanala.

Two years ago a Galwegian took on Galway County Council over a single street-light, demanding that proper planning permission be obtained.

He lost....but give him a medal for trying.

(Or maybe a black widow!)

The planners ruled that street-lights are "Exempt Development" which means (as far as I know) that local authorities can put up street-lights anywhere they like without consulting anybody.

See:

www.pleanala.ie/REP/RL2/RRL2128.DOC

(Seven densely written pages over one street light !)

The battle is being lost,simple as that.

Peter.

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13 years 6 months ago #32594 by Keith g
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The battle is being lost,simple as that.


Sorry to hear about that John. Not entirely - do what I did - build a light shield !!!
Mine is 7ft high, 6ft wide. made simply of a wooden rectangle, bolted up with 90 degree brackets, and a stand to support it underneath. I have two handles to carry it back and forth, it's light, and cost me all of 20 Euro, the structure is covered with thick plastic bags...

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Just make out where you need to put it, and work from there, also have a good place to store it out of the wind !

Mind at ease.
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Keith..

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13 years 6 months ago #32595 by DaveGrennan
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John,

Local lights only cause a major problem if its shining directly on your setup. Its the glow of all the lights in dublin illuminating the skay thats the real problem. As suggested a shield will solve the immediate problem.

Regards and Clear Skies,

Dave.
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13 years 6 months ago #32597 by TrevorDurity
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Very similar issues here.
As the others mention if it's glare coming towards you a light shield will help. If it's indirect like here maybe an IDAS filter would help?

We have a similar problem. Next door is a night club that has very very powerful lights, making it impossible to see anything but a mag 2 star over about 1/4 of the sky from the east to south and to about 40 degrees up.

Ordered an IDAS filter from astromart to see if it makes any difference.

A black widow would probably be more efficient though :wink:

Trev

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13 years 6 months ago #32665 by JohnONeill
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Hi,
Thanks to those for helpful suggestions. It's the sideways glare from this light that's the real problem. Only a small fraction of it's light illuminates the road.

The shield is probably the best idea.

The sky itself is reasonably ok, despite being not too far from Dublin.

John

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13 years 6 months ago #32678 by Keith g
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The shield is probably the best idea.


Sure is John, I don't go about a session without it now, It can be the difference between staying with this hobby, or just plain giving it up :roll:

Be sure to build one, it only takes a few hours, and well worth the effort!

Keith..

If a telescope can fit into your backyard it's too small. If you can't move it, it's too big." -- John Dobson

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13 years 6 months ago #33354 by albertw
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Missed this thread. oops.

Have you tried writing to the council and asking them to change the fitting or asking them to put up a screen?

It may not have much effect and you may have to resort to making a scrren but for the price of a stamp and 20 minutes to write the letter it may help. What it will do is let them know that there are people who care about bad lighting.

Cheers,
~Al

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