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3 difficult doubles in Cassiopeia - 22/11/21

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2 years 5 months ago #110754 by flt158
Hello one and all. 

I placed my William Optics 158mm f/7 apochromatic refractor in my back garden to have a go at observing these 3 difficult doubles all in Cassiopeia. They are relatively near STF 16 which was delicately split at 40x again.  Sunset occurred at 16.19UT. There was no wind so I knew dew was due to happen. Therefore I observed from just 17 to 18.45UT which was long enough as I did complete what I had set out to achieve. Figures can be checked on www.stelledoppie.it if anyone so wishes.  

1. I start off with an apology. I thought I had separated the Robert Aitken (1864-1951) double that has the designation A 1253 on the 9th October last at a lowly magnification of 112x, but later I discovered this was a rubbish observation. I never saw B at all. Here are the figures. Magnitudes: A = 7.7. B = 11.3. Sep = 4”. PA = 83˚. So it was with great urgency I selected this double again as it is listed in Robert Burnham’s Celestial Handbook and I had ticked it off already. Tut Tut! Stelle Doppie gives no indication of a C star. But my Guide 9.1 DVD proved vital. It shows 3 stars okay and I had gotten confused with the extra field star which is nearly at the same PA (position angle). Therefore now was the time to set things right and see if I could see the correct secondary. And gosh – was it tough? At 167x there was no sign of it. Then at 225x I got a brief glimpse of it. But I’m always dissatisfied on seeing an extremely faint secondary just the once and then to have it disappear again. I tried 280x. But whatever was going on with the seeing conditions the star just would not appear at that power. I even tried 320x, but to no avail. I went back to my 5mm Nagler which gives 225x and I could see B once again 2 more times using averted vision. I am so relieved to have seen it successfully during this particular Monday night. By the way, that C star’s magnitude is 11.1. But of course it’s not a C star! 

2. Next up is a true double: HLD 1. Magnitudes: A = 8.3. B = 11.2. Sep = 2.2”. PA = 13˚. I had fun once again seeing the secondary. Sometimes life’s not fair! I seemed to catch very brief sightings at 167x and 225x. But I was much satisfied seeing it with my William Optics 4mm eyepiece which gives 280x. It was visible all the time then. Phew! You would want to see how many eyepieces I had out on my tripod tray. HLD stands for Edward Singleton Holden (1846-1914). 

3. Finally I observed an uncertain double: STI 1319 was discovered by the Roman Catholic priest Johan Stein (1871-1951). Magnitudes: A = 10.7. B = 11.6. Sep = 8.3”. PA = 105˚. Once again I had some difficulties seeing the secondary. However my Nagler 5mm saved the night yet again. The secondary was pointing downwards at 225x. 

So my night was over. The air temperature had descended to 2˚ Celsius. And it was time for din-dins in a lovely warm house! 

Bye for now, Aubrey.  
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2 years 5 months ago #110762 by Until_then-Goodnight!
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Hi Aubrey, 

​​​​​​Very many thanks for sharing your observation with us. I'd love to know what made you question that observation from 9th October. Your attention to detail is something else... Fair play! 

And that 5mm Nagler never fails to do the business for you. It's a real work horse. 

Clear skies, 

Darren. 
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2 years 5 months ago #110766 by flt158
Thank you for your question, Darren. 

When I observed A 1253 on the 9th October I thought I was seeing the secondary. But I did not! The secondary is too close to the primary. I needed considerably more magnification.
The 3rd star has nothing to do with the double star.
But this time I did the secondary - thank goodness. 
(I've tried to keep this simple). 

Clear skies, 

Aubrey. 
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2 years 5 months ago #110769 by Until_then-Goodnight!
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Hi Aubrey, 

Thanks for that, and glad you were able to observe what you intended to.

Clear skies,

Darren.
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2 years 4 months ago #110777 by flt158
Hello Darren. 

I have been working out with the aperture circle on my Guide 9.1 DVD that the false secondary companion to A 1253 is a full 30 arc seconds (") from the primary. 

But the real secondary is 4" from the primary star. Big difference!

The real secondary has a magnitude of 11.3. 
But the false 3rd companion's magnitude is 11.1. 
This means the false 3rd companion is that little bit brighter. 

Sometimes one has to be careful with our double and triple star observations. 
It's all a learning curve. 

Very best regards from Aubrey. 
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