Eyepieces from the US?

15 years 10 months ago #6352 by albertw
Eyepieces from the US? was created by albertw
Hi,

With the recent talk of eyepieces here and the US currency deciding it wants to be on par with the Ruble, it seems like a good time to go shopping.

Like many people here I Imagine the best eyepieces I have, are the $99 box of eyepieces that meade mad on offer for the past couple of years.

So what eyepieces would people here reccomend?

I guess it depends on what you specifically want to see and what scope you have, but even so I'd like to get an idea of what people thinks is worth buying. Feel free toguage answers into pricebands too btw! I havent won the lotto so lets say 3 catagories of <$100, <$200, >$200.

Cheers,
~Al

Albert White MSc FRAS
Chairperson, International Dark Sky Association - Irish Section
www.darksky.ie/

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15 years 10 months ago #6363 by michaeloconnell
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Personally, I'd recommend holding onto your Meade eyepiece, especially the shorter focal length ones. They're pretty good for planets.

As for deep sky, I'd highly recommend getting one really good "workhorse" eyepiece that'll provide a magnification of roughly 100x. 100x is a nice level of magnification that provids plenty of detail in DSOs but without having too narrow a FOV. For me, I bought the 17mm T4 Nagler and find it excellent, The advantage also is that "sometime" (I've been saying that for a while now! :wink: ) when I can afford it I'll invest in a much larger scope. These tend to be fairly fast, as do small refractors. For these you need top quality eyepieces. Investing in these eyepieces will allow future options with your telescope choices.
Personally, I spend most of my nights with just two eyepieces (the two naglers). Reason: sometimes it's best to stop fidling with lots of eyepieces, swapping one in, taking one out etc. Sometimes it's best to just look at the object that bit longer and not to worry about which eyepiece to try on it next.

As for where to buy, I'd highly recommend Astromart.

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15 years 10 months ago #6364 by dave_lillis
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As I got a cheap binoview receintly, I'm pairing my meade 4000s, since they're going cheap now and will be gone soon.

I dont have the patience Michael has (waiting in astromart for a good deal) so I also got one of these superwide field eyepieces.
That'll do for me for now.

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Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)

Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go. :)
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15 years 10 months ago #6369 by ayiomamitis
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Dave,

I have a wide suite of eyepieces and would strongly recommend the TeleVue Plossls. My 20mm and 55 mm TV Plossls are workhorses and make it into the diagonal for each and every session.

At the same time, I would like to recommend the TV "grenades". I have PanOptics and Naglers and they are serious eyepieces. When the seeing is good and I am in a position to push the power to absurd levels, out come my grenades! :-) With the massacre of the US dollars, this would be a wonderful time to get the great eyepieces.

Some very underrated eyepieces are the Orion Ultrascopics. I have a complete set of these and love them to death. They are high contrast and razor sharp. They are coated eyepieces from Japan under the name of "Ultrascopic" and are priced around $100 (some focal lengths above $100 and other lengths slightly below).

Anthony.

Anthony Ayiomamitis
Athens, Greece
www.perseus.gr

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15 years 10 months ago #6373 by dmcdona
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I read a recent review in one of the US mags (S&T or Astronomy) that reviewed the new TMB's. If I remember rightly they came of very well. And I think as a set, they're designed to be parfocal.

www.handsonoptics.com/astronomy/tmb/tmb.html

They seem reasonable value too.

But a word of caution for anyone considering purchasing from the US - and I really don't mean to rain on anyone's parade - you may be liable for import duty and VAT on purchases over a certain amount. Now, its not clear what that amount is but I think its 100 odd euro (its something like that for gifts etc). So, you need to factor in +4.7% (I think) for import and then +21% on the whole amount. And get this, these percentages apply to your packaging, shipping and insurance costs. Talk about rip off Ireland :evil:

You can of course take a chance but do not be surprised if your eagerly awaited package is delayed by customs pending an additional payment from you...

As many of you know, I have been researching this lately - it seems that the best solution is to buy from within Europe. If you pay the VAT of the EU country the items come from, there are no import or VAT duties payable. e.g German VAT is only 16%, UK is 17.5% etc etc.

There are of course 'other' ways to purchase and get his equipment but I wouldn't know anything about that :shock:

Hope this helps or at least gives it to you straight.

Dave

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15 years 10 months ago #6376 by michaeloconnell
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Dave,

The TMBs DIDN'T fair that well at all. Although the authour said they were good, he didn't find any real difference between these and other good quality plossls. The reaction was such so that alot of people (read:owners) got upset about it on many of the astronomy chat websites and sales plummeted after the review.

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15 years 10 months ago #6377 by dmcdona
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Michael - I think the issue was around the fact that owners and/or TMB had proclaimed that their new eyepieces 'blew the competition out of the water' as regards contrast. The reviewer rightly disagreed with that assertion. However, the eyepieces performed equally as good as the comparison eyepieces (Vernonscope Brandon, Clave, and TV plossls) on planets.

I think the owners were victims of this overenthusiastic hype from whatever source and thought that their new monocentric was the bees knees - when it was really just as good as other good eyepieces. No better, no worse.

I guess the advice to anyone buying eyepieces is try and get a review and then compare prices - a simple sum will then point you in the right direction.

By the way, I don't have TMB's or even a (lovely) TMB refractor so I've no 'position' to hold here. And I'm glad you came back with an alternative view of the article. But all in all, they got 4 stars out of five, which for a Sky and Telescope review is pretty good. I don't think I would have a problem purchasing them if planetary viewing was my cup of tea and the price was the same or cheaper than the plossls mentioned in the article.

At some point, I know I'll be in the market for new eyepieces and I'm dreading the day when I'll have to decide what I'll spend my hard earned dosh on. Come to think of, this really is a damned hard hobby! I can't imagine what all the newbies to this board think they might be getting into!

As a word of comfort then, you can get as much pleasure out of this hobby with your own eyes and no equipment as you can with a system costing you tens of thousands of euro - or even a super value ETX from Lidl!

Cheers

Dave

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15 years 10 months ago #6381 by dave_lillis
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Guys,
I tend to agree with both of you with regards the TMB eyepieces, S&Ts review was honest and not surprising.

The TMB monocentrics were overhyped, they are excellent planetary eyepieces but so are many other eyepieces, and those other eyepieces have good at widefields while the monocentrics do not.

The monocentrics might have been the only good planetary eyepieces 100 years ago, but not these days and thats the point that alot of people missed.

Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
Chairman. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)

Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go. :)
+ 12"LX200, MK67, Meade2045, 4"refractor

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