Meade to make big product announcement on 3rd of January.

15 years 4 months ago #7314 by dave_lillis
Hi All,
Apparently Meade is to make a product announcement on the 3rd of January, lots of speculation on the web as to what its all about,
some say its about adding USB to the scope, or a major overhall to the opto-mechanics of the GPS scopes, or a wireless GPS/DEC drive and wireless handcontroller system !

Others suggesting a completely invisible corrector plate due to the zero loss a new coating will provide, or even a cloud removal device for those more bad-weather sites or the ultimate GOTO system where the scope walks outside and sets itself up :lol:

My bet is that they're going to copy the "joystickstar" (thanks Seanie) I built 2 weeks ago :wink: :wink:

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15 years 4 months ago #7315 by albertw
Given that Meade are preannouncing the announcement, and people like optcorp are saying nothing I'm going to offer 2 ideas:

1. The first of the Meade-Coronado scopes... Anyone reading this want to give us insider information? ;-)

2. Fully wireless. Java software to control the scope from anywhere on any OS including interfaces to the LPI/DSI focusing etc.

Oh and changing the colour of the scopes again too obviously :-)

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15 years 4 months ago #7317 by ei5fk
Replied by ei5fk on topic Whats it going to be
Ill bet its a linkup with LIDL
Can u see it, telescopes for masses
11" goto telescopes at 499€ :P
You saw it here first
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15 years 4 months ago #7321 by Seanie_Morris

My bet is that they're going to copy the "joystickstar" (thanks Seanie) I built 2 weeks ago :wink: :wink:


Dave,
that should be

JoystickStar TM

:D

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15 years 4 months ago #7325 by dave_lillis
Albert,
"change the colour again"??, when was it changed in the first place, they're all blue or white?? or do you mean the pictures on the tubes of the ETXs..

I would be surprised if the announcement didnt involve H-alpha scopes in some shape or form,
maybe affordable (I nearly wrote cheap :oops:) h-alpha masks for its range of LX200s :D

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15 years 4 months ago #7340 by johnflannery
I was talking to the guys in Scope City today and they feel that the announcement will relate to a wireless interface with the Meade -- but they didn't even know about it until I told them about this thread. The basic wireless setup will allow a general command interface. To transfer images, etc. would need WiFi.

the timing of the announcement they feel could be early February as there is a major photo equipment show in Las Vegas that traditionally has been the venue for Meade or Celestron to roll out new products.

cheers,

John

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15 years 4 months ago #7352 by dave_lillis
some are saying that the LX200 is going to be
replaced and that the long awaited LX300 is here.

After all this, I still reckon on the H-alpha scope of some sort, should be interesting.

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15 years 4 months ago #7502 by dave_lillis
Replied by dave_lillis on topic Congtatulations, its a RITCHEY CRETIEN !!!!!!
WOW
Congtatulations, its a RITCHEY CRETIEN !!!!!!

www.meade.com/rcx400/

This is one serious scope !!!
built in anti dew heater, electronic collimation, :shock: !!!!!


But I bet you'll be waiting months for its release, like the 14" LX200.

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15 years 4 months ago #7563 by dave_lillis
On further reading of the yahoo groups,

If this scopes performs as well as meade says, its might spell the end of the SCT, at least Meades line of them, and there will be a glut of LX200s on astromart.

On the other hand, there are alot of questions regarding the mount, that fork looks abit small, I wonder ????

still makes for exciting times ahead.

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15 years 4 months ago #7564 by michaeloconnell
As it's from the 10" upwards, it does seem to conflict with the LX200 series alright. However, the prices of the 10" to 14" scopes are alot dearer than their RC counterparts so it could be a long time before the smaller LXs get phased out. However, one scope that will most likely cease production will be the 16" LX200. As for the remainder, I think they'll co-exist.

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15 years 4 months ago #7571 by dmcdona
I have to say that the mount looks a little on the puny side - I'm assuming its the 16" in the photo - if its the 10" version on that mount then I don't see the 16" sell very well! The tripod looks a real beast though.

It would be a real boost if Meade offered just the OTA - with a focal length of 3251mm for the 16", that's gonna need some mount for astrophotography. I've always assumed Meade only sell the full package (mount, OTA and tripod) - is that correct? If so, I guess removing the scope from the forks would not be a good idea...

It'd look cooler on my new (due in March) Astrophysics 1200GTO than the ETX70 though - due in March

Dave

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15 years 4 months ago #7573 by DaveGrennan
I agree about the mount looking puny. However the optical aspects look awesome. Those spot diagrams are the stuff of dreams.

Also noticed that the superwedge is 'optional'! Come on its about as un-neccessary as the primary mirror considering the scope is advertised as 'observatory-level
telescope for the serious astronomer and astrophotographer'

Other thing is the cost. Can you imagine what thats gonna cost over here. Dont get me wrong, I'd sell my granny for the 14 inch OTA, if I had a granny left:)

Definitely a lot to drool over! I can imaging tying to explain to 'er indoors' why we've just spend over 10 grand on a scope:) Isnt it funny If I hold her I was spending that on a car she wouldnt bat an eyelid. Oh maybe oneday I'll be experienced enough to fabricate the optics for something like that.

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15 years 4 months ago #7576 by dmcdona
Dave - the thing that struck me was that Meade engineers decided the RC design was the way to go. Optical guidance systems have been making RC's for years!! Mind you, check out their prices.

Oh for the 40" (1 metre) scope (you'd need a lotto win for that - a cool $765,000 - yes, that *is* a comma). Then there's the half acre you'd need for the observatory, the research grade Finger Lakes camera. But I bet the wedge is included!

Mind you, I'd guess OGS will be a little worried over competition. Their 16" starts at just over $43,000. But then you get a Paramount with that - which costs the same as the entire Meade outfit.

The Meade ad shows the 12" OTA on the mount - I really do think a 16 incher would make hard work for the mount pictured. Imagine that it has to support your OTA and a few pounds of eyepiece or camera plus guidescope...

I'd say Celestron might now be rushing through whatever blueprints they have to hand.

As far as 'er indoors goes, I told here I was spending 10 grand on a mount and she was very undestanding. Anyway, I can't linger, I have to make her a cuppa just before I do the washing and ironing... :wink:

Dave

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15 years 4 months ago #7581 by dave_lillis
Lads,
Meade do sell OTAs if you ask for them, I really cant see that fork in the picture holding a 16" or 14" OTA,
I'd imagine that the OTA for this scope is not available seperately as there is electronics at the base of the tube, so you'll have wires and so on running from the tube down through the forks etc.. I just seems more integrated then LX200 OTAs.
If I were getting one, there is no way in hell I'd be getting it on this side of the atlantic, I'd be getting it over in the US.

The 14" LX200 was a small bit tempting for me to upgrade to, but this blows it completely out of the water, but patience is a virtue.
Its best to wait atleast a year and see what happens, look up reviews and see whats fixed/changed.

The fork and drive are my main concern, there are 6 worm gear motors in this beast !!.

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15 years 4 months ago #7598 by albertw

I'd say Celestron might now be rushing through whatever blueprints they have to hand.


Doubt it, they seem to have bet on the C20 astrograph at $40,000. Looks a nice scope, if you like 20" scopes. They claim " Celestron’s Modified Corrected Dall-Kirkham design exceeds the off-axis performance of even the Ritchey-Chrétien design." but they would wouldnt they :-) I think we'll have to wait until someone gets these to test before drawing conclusions.

Meade seem to have pulled the rug from under them Imho by producing a scope that although is only available up to 16" seems to be more functional, and as usual with Meade, looks a hell of a lot better! Any one who was thinking of purchasing the C20 will be giving the new meade line a serious look.

Suppose they could replace the Nextar GPS range with a Dall-Kirkham design scope...

Speaking of Dall-Kirkham and Ritchey-Chrétien, can anyone point me to a site which describes these optical systems?

Cheers,
~Al

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15 years 4 months ago #7600 by albertw

Also noticed that the superwedge is 'optional'! Come on its about as un-neccessary as the primary mirror considering the scope is advertised as 'observatory-level
telescope for the serious astronomer and astrophotographer'


Another 'optional':

RCX400 scopes operate from eight C-cells neatly stored inside the fork arms. Alternately, telescope powering may be effected from an automobile cigarette lighter plug (using the optional #607 Power Cord) or from a standard home outlet (using the new optional AC Adapter).


Like anyone is going to power a scope that auto focuses and collimates, has a built in dew heater and uses 6 motors from C-cell batteries!

Cheers,
~Al

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15 years 4 months ago #7629 by dave_lillis
Apparently the dew heater is only some sort of resistor wire and it lies next to the corrector plate, so apparently it requires little power, but I just cant see batteries running this scope for any length of time.

check out pics at
www.optcorp.com/meade/optrcxexclusive.aspx

and for a detailed run down of the RCX400,
www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat...d/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1

And for those looking for a F2.2 schmidt camera,
www.meade.com/catalog/lx/12_lx200sc.html
make sure you bring a ladder :shock:

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15 years 4 months ago #7635 by Seanie_Morris
You can make an effective dew heater from 6 X 25ohm resistors wired in series connected to a 12 volt battery supply...

...just in case anyone wanted to know!

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15 years 4 months ago #7662 by dave_lillis
Looks like meade is phasing out the 16" LX200,
check out these prices ( www.optcorp.com/ ), there about $5000 less then last week..

1650-50-25
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain AZ Tripod, Standard
Coatings $9,999.00

1650-50-26
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain AZ Tripod,
UHTC $10,494.00

1650-50-35
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain AZ Pier, Standard Coatings
$10,144.00

1650-50-36
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain AZ Pier,
UHTC $10,639.00

1650-50-45
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain EQ Pier, Standard
Coatings $10,399.00

1650-50-46
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain EQ Pier,
UHTC $10,894.00

1650-50-05
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain w/o Tripod or Pier Standard
Coatings $9149.00

1650-50-06
16" LX200GPS-SMT Schmidt-Cassegrain w/o Tripod or Pier
UHTC $9644.00

1610-00-21
16" OTA UHTC

$5999.00

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