Help on the 'Christmas Star'

10 years 4 months ago - 10 years 4 months ago #78465 by Frank Ryan
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I'm doing some research at the moment on the
'Christmas Star' or the 'Star of Betheleham'
and I'm digging around for books on the subject.
I wonder has anyone here read a good (astronomically)
book on the subject that would help in putting together
a club talk.
Also links links to sites would be a help.

Many of the books I've encountered so far have
an obvious bias to 'Proof of Gods plan' and such.
I'd like to approach this based on fact and to take
religious beliefs out of the equation altogether.

eg:


Cheers.

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10 years 4 months ago #78468 by PhilipLardner
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Hi Frank,

There was a good article about the Star of Betheleham in Sky&Tel last year or the previous... around Christmas time, funnily enough! I'll try and dig it out if you want and scan it for you. Let me know.

Phil.

StarSystems 20" f/4 - 16" f/5 - 8.75" f/6 (travel scope) - 6.25" f/4 - 6.25" f/7... and a shedload of eyepieces and other gear!

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10 years 4 months ago #78470 by ayiomamitis
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Phil,

I was just about to make the same comment about the article in S&T.

Anthony.

Anthony Ayiomamitis
Athens, Greece
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10 years 4 months ago #78477 by Frank Ryan
Replied by Frank Ryan on topic Help on the 'Christmas Star'
Thanks lads.
I have that one put aside.

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10 years 4 months ago #78482 by michaeloconnell
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Frank,

Bart has done a bit of research in this area and gives a very good talk on the topic. Might be worth banging a PM off to him as he takes an approach which I think you are looking for.

Michael.

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10 years 4 months ago #78485 by dave_lillis
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yea, the star of Bethlehem,
I think you got to decide was the whole thing made up in the first place, if you decide it was, then end of story.
IF you believe someone saw something, then you got to decide what it was, a fairly popular suggestion is that a planet (think it was Jupiter) passed extremely near Regulus in Leo with a few years of 1 AD, you can make the deduction some might make about Leo been the lion/king constellation and Jupiter the king of the planets, run it on starry night.
Then there is the usual miracle stuff and all that.

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10 years 4 months ago #78487 by michaeloconnell
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Dave_Lillis wrote:

Then there is the usual miracle stuff and all that.


Remind me to get my bible back off you...

:-)

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10 years 4 months ago #78488 by michaeloconnell
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It is worth looking into the historical issues surrounding it as well.
When was hKing Herod in power?
Is there evidence that children were killed?
Why is the Star of Bethlehem only mentioned by one of the 4 authors of the bible?
How do all these time periods fit in with each other?
How could a precise location like a stable be determined from the measurement of an astronomical object?
etc etc

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10 years 4 months ago #78528 by dave_lillis
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michaeloconnell wrote:

Dave_Lillis wrote:

Then there is the usual miracle stuff and all that.


Remind me to get my bible back off you...

:-)

I'm using it to hold up a broken foot on the sofa, I'll dig it out for you. :)

Dave L. on facebook , See my images in flickr
IFAS Rep. Shannonside Astronomy Club (Limerick)

Carrying around my 20" obsession is going to kill me,
but what a way to go. :)
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