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Replied by Matthew C on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Oh anthony i meant so long that it would be hard to bring with me! :lol: I know its a great little scope! I have one and the optics are so crisp!
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Oh anthony i meant so long that it would be hard to bring with me! :lol: I know its a great little scope! I have one and the optics are so crisp!

How about a very well padded duffel bag?
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Replied by Matthew C on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

I suppose! The mount retracts to quite a small size! Solar filter required! :D
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Replied by SunCrazy on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

How about a camping setup? Seriously.

We will get Seanie to keep an eye out for the Russian bears. In fact we can make a sacrifice .... Seanie! :P



....hmmm...the bears would not be a problem... for camping you would need to go out the city into the country... I would not sleep in a tent there unless I have an armed guard with me... this might sound dramatic, but is very much the truth...

but as somebody else said before in this post, try to contact the Novosibirsk State University, you might be able to arrange something with their physics/astronomy department.

www.nsu.ru/english/

by the way , they also make telescopes in Novosibirsk

www.telescopes.ru/
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

but as somebody else said before in this post, try to contact the Novosibirsk State University, you might be able to arrange something with their physics/astronomy department.

www.nsu.ru/english/

A local amateur did just that and found extremely attractive rates. I do not remember the actual figures.

by the way , they also make telescopes in Novosibirsk

www.telescopes.ru/

You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Solar filter required! :D

This is the most trivial of your problems ... a sheet of Baader ND5.0 mylar filter.
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Replied by SunCrazy on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.


problem is getting it back to Ireland ( Greece in your case :D ).... unless you can buy it and then have it shipped to your address back home...that would be sweeeeeet 8) 8) 8)
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You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.


problem is getting it back to Ireland ( Greece in your case :D ).... unless you can buy it and then have it shipped to your address back home...that would be sweeeeeet 8) 8) 8)

I bought it from Comrad Seanie Morissivski, a well-known local optician, and he is the one sending it as well via courier with a declared value of 1000 euro. :wink:
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

PS. Would you believe a 14" RC with 0.98 Strehl ratio and RMS 1/25 lambda for under 9.000 euro (and this is through a dealer). Imagine directly from the manufacturer in Novosibirsk?!
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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.


problem is getting it back to Ireland ( Greece in your case :D ).... unless you can buy it and then have it shipped to your address back home...that would be sweeeeeet 8) 8) 8)

I bought it from Comrad Seanie Morissivski, a well-known local optician, and he is the one sending it as well via courier with a declared value of 1000 euro. :wink:


OMG there is a russian Seanie aswell !
Anthony, this could prove to be a very expensive trip to Russia, do they sell directly at the factory ??
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You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.


problem is getting it back to Ireland ( Greece in your case :D ).... unless you can buy it and then have it shipped to your address back home...that would be sweeeeeet 8) 8) 8)

I bought it from Comrad Seanie Morissivski, a well-known local optician, and he is the one sending it as well via courier with a declared value of 1000 euro. :wink:


OMG there is a russian Seanie aswell !
Anthony, this could prove to be a very expensive trip to Russia, do they sell directly at the factory ??

Hi Dave,

I sent an email to one of the two brains behind the company but never received a reply. One possible scenario (which I was contemplating) was to place an order right now with intended pick-up next year in person thanks to the eclipse. I would then ship the scope to myself using a courier.

Here is the website where you will also find additional information and specs: www.telescopes.ru/product.html?cat=2 ... the quality is very high and the pricing is very aggressive and attractive.

This is a wonderful opportunity since we will be there for the eclipse and the installations for these scopes also happen to be in the same city! :)
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Replied by Seanie_Morris on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

We will get Seanie to keep an eye out for the Russian bears. In fact we can make a sacrifice .... Seanie! :P


Wouldn't work... I smell too bad :D However, I heard something about Greeks....

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You can pick up a dirt-cheap high-quality 14" RC in Novosibirsk and it is something which crossed my mind as well.


problem is getting it back to Ireland ( Greece in your case :D ).... unless you can buy it and then have it shipped to your address back home...that would be sweeeeeet 8) 8) 8)

I bought it from Comrad Seanie Morissivski, a well-known local optician, and he is the one sending it as well via courier with a declared value of 1000 euro. :wink:


I am? :D

First, bear bait... now, a cheap Russian courier... what next? A Greek hooker? :P
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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

:lol: :lol: You never know Seanie .
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Replied by michaeloconnell on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Raising your standards a little too high, Seanie, I think...
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Replied by Frank Ryan on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Is this trip gonna cost the world or what?
As far as I've seen myself and heard at the Galway Starparty it's mad money?
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Raising your standards a little too high, Seanie, I think...
:)

This is awesome .... and here I thought I had a perfect comeback for Seanie.

Anyway, all projections for this evening were for very cloudy weather and something went wrong ... the skies cleared for 2.5 hours between astro twilight and the rising moon with fairly good seeing ... as a result I will have something in a couple of hours dedicated to the bear bait!
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Replied by ayiomamitis on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Is this trip gonna cost the world or what?
As far as I've seen myself and heard at the Galway Starparty it's mad money?

Frank,

One thing about money is that you can't take it with you when the fateful moment comes (Greek expression). Therefore, spend it and enjoy it the best way you know how!!!!
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Replied by jhoare on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Should be warm on August first for the eclipse, has anyone been able to figure out the cloud expectancy there at that time ?

See sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEmono/TS...au/TSE2008-fig10.GIF .

The best chance of clear skies is in the Xinjiang province of Northwest China.
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Replied by Frank Ryan on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Is this trip gonna cost the world or what?
As far as I've seen myself and heard at the Galway Starparty it's mad money?

Frank,

One thing about money is that you can't take it with you when the fateful moment comes (Greek expression). Therefore, spend it and enjoy it the best way you know how!!!!


I totally agree.... It may be something to work t' woards....
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Replied by SunCrazy on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia


The best chance of clear skies is in the Xinjiang province of Northwest China.


yes, but getting there would all together a total logistic nightmare ... NW China is very rural and mountainous.... and not very much developed yet.
Also I think papers and customes related Russia will be easier than China...you start explaining some paranoid border official in China that that spotterscope you are carrying is actually to watch an eclipse....
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Replied by jhoare on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

That's a very last century impression of China. The modern PRC is very interested in any and every event that provides an opportunity to develop its tourist industry and is very much aware of the value to the trade of the 2008 eclipse, and border officials are kept well informed.

The eclipse path through Xinjiang province is not very far from the old Silk Road and the Chinese rail link between the Trans Siberian Express route and Beijing. I would seek advice in the first instance from the tourism office at the Chinese Embassy. It shouldn't be particularly hard to arrange (or find a reliable agency to arrange) connections from Beijing by air to local airports and buses or by train and bus, first to a hotel near the line that would act as a base camp, then to a viewing location on the day.

Novosibirsk is definitely easier to get to and would be easier to organise. But Xinjiang province would provide improved odds of actually seeing the eclipse.

I have other priorities for spending this year and next, unfortunately, so I'm only offering this as food for thought.
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Replied by cobyrne on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

Also I think papers and customes related Russia will be easier than China...you start explaining some paranoid border official in China that that spotterscope you are carrying is actually to watch an eclipse....

I've been to China twice now, and I've never experienced any immigration or customs hassle (apart from a bit of queueing). I would recommend that you get your Chinese visa from the embassy in Dublin before travelling - they will take your passport off you for a week or so while they process your application, though for a bit more money you can get it done in a day or so. As for customs - it's no more complicated than any other country. You have to fill out a declaration and hand it to the customs official at the border.

My experience of China is of an ultra modern country though, granted, I've only ever really been to Shanghai (which is a totally amazing ultra-modern city - probably the most modern city I've ever been in).

So, if you pick China, be prepared to be pleasantly surprised.
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Replied by dfnsk on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

hi everyone.

Paul FitzGerald, thank you

I'll try to comment your posts.

First, about flights between Moscow and Nsk. You can choose Aerflot, S7 (s7.ru), Transaero. Last two use boeing. Cheaper tickets available for students (search startravel.ru). There are many specialprice-sales, especially on autumn and spring.
You can fly to Novosibirsk from Frankfurt (s7), Antalia (s7) and Stambul (not regular). Also, Tolmachevo airport is working with some asian airlines, so you can try to fly via china or smth like that - may be it would be cheaper.
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Replied by dfnsk on topic Re: Total Solar Eclipse 2008 - Russia

... the challenge is getting there and having somewhere to stay.

How about a camping setup? Seriously.


in august nights could be cold. but if you are still interesting, i can give you links and some information about camping-places near novosibirsk
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