Possible Sprite??

8 years 10 months ago #91065 by Graham
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Good morning all!

My Meteor cam picked this up the other day and I was wondering what you make of it?

UFOCapture clocked it in at Mag -5.5 (26th October 2011 01:25:39)
Camera facing NNE from South Dublin.

Trigger Image:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/grahamroche/6288086735/
Link

Video:

Link

There is a uniform slight brightness on frame 36 at 01:25:39.855

The above image is frame 37 at 01:25:39.887

Frame 38 at 01:25:39.934 has no irregularities, 51 frames captured altogether.

Lightning?? Fireworks??

Kind Regards,

Graham

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8 years 10 months ago #91071 by Seanie_Morris
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Hi Graham,

As all we are seeing is what your sky camera saw, what is beyond the limit of visibility here? Have you housing nearby in this direction that might have a few kids with a firework? Seeing as the Plough is in frame, it is quite low down at this time of year after dark so you're getting something that might be, what, 10-20 degrees up from the horizon? The still is intriguing, like reverse lightning! How many frames per second is the video?

Seanie.

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8 years 10 months ago #91073 by Frank Ryan
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I saw something exactly like this a few years ago
on a US astronomy site.
The image was sent to experts and they
returned a verdict of sprite as they had
recorded lightning strikes in the area near the camera
(60 miles away)

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8 years 10 months ago #91075 by dave_lillis
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They certainly look like sprites you'd see on discovery channel, you should go try find cloud cover images for north of your location ands see if there are any clouds that could be associated with them.
You should look at this spaceweather page, its about crepuscular rays and how the observer was able to pin down the source clouds.
www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&...9&month=10&year=2011

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8 years 10 months ago #91077 by GLIESE 581G
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swampgas or a air balloon maybe

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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #91079 by Frank Ryan
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Can you offer some exmples of swampgas or air balloons that look like that?
(aside from the ones in the film you saw)

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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #91084 by GLIESE 581G
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im being sarcastic this is what the [edited by moderator] carl zagan
robots say who cant think for themselfs say which their is
a few of on this forum of course its not swampgas or a air balloon
and i tell what else its not its not a Satellite or a comet or venus
or the ISS as i said before i know what it is and maybe you know
as well but you havent got the [edited] to say what it really is
because your afaid people might make fun of you just like your
last post Very unusual sighting!




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8 years 10 months ago #91086 by Frank Ryan
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You're entitled to you're opinions as everyone is but
I wonder do you need to use inappropriate
language (for these mrssageboards) or indeed,
broadly aimed insulting comments to make your point?
In fact, your point is so badly made that it is unclear
as to what you are trying to say at all.
I have not watched your video clip link nor will I
as you give no explination of intent as to why you have
put them there.
You appear to be under the assumption that
orhers and curiously I, somehow don't want to
voice an opinion.

If you can try and explain what your thoughts
are I'd be willing to entertain them in a polite conversation.

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8 years 10 months ago #91093 by Graham
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Unfortunately there is a LOT of residential areas between the camera and the horizon but the camera is recording at 25fps so if it was a firework there 'should' be frames before and after with trails.

At least it cant be a Chinese Lantern! :P

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8 years 10 months ago #91099 by michaeloconnell
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Gliese 581G,
Please try and refrain from using offensive language and insulting others on this forum please.
Apart from the fact that it's not permitted here, it's also probably the least effective way of convincing others of the merits of your argument.
Thanks,
Michael.

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8 years 10 months ago #91102 by dave_lillis
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oh yea... theyre obviously ufo's.... :stooges:
show me a pic of a ufo, and if I'll agree with you if I think it is one aswell.
on second thoughts, actually please dont. I'm not interested.


so Graham, have you digged aound for an explaination of it. ?

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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #91104 by GLIESE 581G
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I have not watched your video clip link nor will I
as you give no explination of intent as to why you have
put them there.

oh yea... theyre obviously ufo's....
show me a pic of a ufo, and if I'll agree with you if I think it is one aswell.
on second thoughts, actually please dont. I'm not interested

HAHAHA I DONT THINK I HAVE TO SAY ANYMORE DO I NO WONDER
NASA IS BEING RUN INTO THE GROUND ITS PEOPLE LIKE
YOURSELFS WHO ARE CLOSED MINDED THATS DESTROYING IT.

Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.

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8 years 10 months ago #91106 by Frank Ryan
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You're missing my point.
The reason why I won't click on the videos
is not because I don't agree with you
(in fact, you still have not put forward your position)
it's because you simply inserted them
there after a rant without any preface
as to what they are about or weather
they are there to support or compliment
your 'point'.
I'm not going to just click on some random
video.

So, can I be direct here.
If you can (without unfounded insults)
please tell us in simple english what you
are trying to say.
I'm "reading into" your replies that
you believe that the sprite like object
is in fact an alien craft?
Am I correct in assuming this?

Also can you clarify,
regarding my "unusual sighting" post.
Again, you don't state anything directly
but it appears again that you believe
from my vague description of something
that again you are sure it must in fact be an alien spaceship.
Is this correct?

I am genuinely trying to understand
what you are trying to say.
So if you could clarify, that would be great.

Just on a side note,
you seem to read into my replys
as some sort of disagreement to you.
You seem to assume quite a lot from this.
Let me just say you don't know me or
what I believe or don't believe.

I'm willing (one more time) to
ignore the insult and ask you to put forward
in plain English what your argument is.
So,
over to you...

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8 years 10 months ago #91111 by johnomahony
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Moderators? :banned:

The Lord giveth, the Revenue taketh away. (John 1:16)

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8 years 10 months ago #91113 by Frank Ryan
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I wouldn't go that far John.
Ball is in your court GLIESE 581G.

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8 years 10 months ago #91114 by mykc
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The paragraph beginning "Here's to the crazy ones" in GLIESE 581G's last post is a direct quote from the late Steve Jobs. Even the 'crazy ones' should acknowledge their sources.

Same applies to images; the remarkable shots of Jupiter ("taken with celestron c-11 with TS Optics 3 Megapixel Digitalcamera at f50") in the Flickr photostream referred to in GLIESE 581G's forum posts bear a striking similarity to images posted by the well known astrophotographer Brian G. Combs (e.g. bcastropics.com/images/view/361 ).

GLIESE 581G has posted a number of intemperate messages on this forum. Frank Ryan's response is extremely reasonable and I want to support him. I think it is quite fair to ask GLIESE 581G to state his position, and perhaps he should also respond to the issue of the use, without attribution, of material produced by others.

Mike

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8 years 10 months ago #91115 by Frank Ryan
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Graham,
I wonder have you considered sending
the image & details to sombody involved
in lightning / sprite research?

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8 years 10 months ago #91116 by mjc
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Didn't we have an unusually large amount of rain round about then?
Could it be that some power supply infra structure (eg sub stations) arced due to rain?

My very limited understanding is that sprites occur above thunder clouds.
I don't recall thunder storms over this period (I'm in D15) and what you have imaged is pretty close to the horizon.

Just my 2c.

Mark C.

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8 years 10 months ago #91118 by dave_lillis
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GLIESE 581G wrote: NO WONDER
NASA IS BEING RUN INTO THE GROUND ITS PEOPLE LIKE
YOURSELFS WHO ARE CLOSED MINDED THATS DESTROYING IT.


If by some miracle anyone from NASA is reading this post, you can now offer me a job as now I'm qualified, I need to give 4 weeks notice though.
this is great craic. :devil:

seriously though, if they are sprites and that low to the horison, then the clouds below them must be many tens of miles north of you, if not over 60+ miles away.
With a bit of maths, you can figuring out the distance given the angle above the horison and the typical altitudes of the suppossed sprites. There was an article in sky&telescope regarding cloud distance and angle above the horison,I must go dig it out.

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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #91124 by Frank Ryan
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Actually, now I do recall that an American with an all sky meteor cam
posted pretty much the exact same looking image on some messageboard..
can't recall which one though..


Dave's post jogged my memory...
He suspected the 'sprite' was somewhere in the region of 60-70 miles away
but in fact it turned out to be much further.
The frame he caught it on was also at the bottom which makes perfect sense
if you think about it.

Here is a link to Met Eireans Lightning report for the 26th of Oct
There was one strike recorded to the NE of you that night but the time
suggests it was later although not all strikes get recorded.
www.met.ie/climate/lightning.asp?ReportDate=26/10/2011


The more I look at the video and image the more certain I am that it is indeed
a sprite from lightning.

Here are some links to threads on other fourms about
people capturing sprites (and some nice video footage of them also)
tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/meteorobs/message/38933

dragonneo.com/~bigcountrywx/hamwx/hw3.ph...lashgallery_template

asterisk.apod.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=25156

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8 years 10 months ago #91133 by Graham
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Many thanks for all your help guys,

I have emailed a few places and fingers crossed they will get back to me,

There are a few lightning stations around so hopefully they will help locate the storm! :)

I will of course let you all know if I get any replies back!

Graham

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8 years 10 months ago #91139 by GLIESE 581G
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frank if you want to know what i think as
you say just open your mind and watch these
short videos i believe what the astronauts
generals and scienists in the videos just
open your mind people sent me videos all
the time i dont say im not going to watch
them because i know im right.







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8 years 10 months ago - 8 years 10 months ago #91140 by Frank Ryan
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Ok,
Firstly, I did not say I wouldnt watch the earlier videos
because 'I know that I'm right'
I said I was not going to watch them because you
did not give any preface as to what they were about
or there for.

Secondly,
What I wanted to know
(and I stated this fairly clearly above)
was did you think the image Graham recorded
was in fact an alien spaceship as you elluded to.

Lastly,
on the seperate issue of Ufo reports being debunked
or buried by the US government.
It's nothing new to me.
I've read several books on the subject and in fact
it's one of my pet interests.
I like to just digest the facts and take it from there.
Almost all UFO sightings can quite reasonbly be explained.
It's the small amount from credible witnesses are
the ones that are interesting.

I also don't like the way the producers of these
films (as above) litterally discredit the whole content
by showing (some) images during the iterviews
that have actually been proved as fake.

Oh and by the way.
The Pheonix sighting was actually proved to
have been flairs during a military training excercise.

Lastly,
I personally find the topic of UFO's
Alien Visitors etc all very facinating.
My mind is actually very open to all
intellegent reasonable arguments.
Unfortunatly, your posts often come across
in a very negative manner.

Do I believe in extraterrestrial life?
Yes.
I personally think the universe is too old, big and reptitave
for this planet to be the ONLY place in the entire universe
at any time to have had 'life' of some kind.
Now weather or not there are aliens in crafts
dropping by for whatever reason,
I'm very open to reading and listining to reports
from the likes of the people above.
But yet we must have our minds open to ALL
possibilities and be mindful that while the vast
majority of the 'credable' witnesses we can
take at face value there are surely a small amount
that are unreliable.
Just because someone was once a pilot or
astronaut does not make them 100% reliable.
(remember the female astronaut that drove
a few thousand miles wearing a nappy
so she didnt have to stop to attack her husbands lover!?)

I'd really like to believe.
:-)

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