Feedback on the new site

11 years 1 month ago #71821 by jeyjey
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OK, I found the "hover-only" profile editing stuff, but boy is that counter-intuitive.

One of my other bugs (the forum stuff all got formatted below the fixed-layout stuff on the left (main menu, user menu, moon phase) now appears fixed.

Clicking the "remember me" checkbox in the login section doesn't seem to work. Even opening a new window (while currently logged in to a different one) doesn't automatically log me in.

The fixed-width and always-keep-main-menu visible make for a lot more scrolling (since all the topics end up being formatted narrower and therefore longer). I can certainly see the benefit to new users of always having the main menu up, but perhaps we could abandon the fixed-width part? (Or have the main menu be horizontal above the forum rather than vertical and using space all the way down the infinite-height toilet-paper scroll-space?)

Don't mean to be hen-pecking you guys. Just though you'd like to know the issues I had found.

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11 years 1 month ago #71822 by dave_lillis
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jeyjey wrote:

OK, I found the "hover-only" profile editing stuff, but boy is that counter-intuitive.

I also have that, I presumed it was a firefox related bug or something, a real pain.

jeyjey wrote:

One of my other bugs (the forum stuff all got formatted below the fixed-layout stuff on the left (main menu, user menu, moon phase) now appears fixed.

Clicking the "remember me" checkbox in the login section doesn't seem to work. Even opening a new window (while currently logged in to a different one) doesn't automatically log me in.

The fixed-width and always-keep-main-menu visible make for a lot more scrolling (since all the topics end up being formatted narrower and therefore longer).

Cheers,
-- Jeff.

I find the same thing. for the old site I saved the latest posts as a favourite rather then having to go to the front page and work my way to it, when now I click on the favourite it doesn't see that its me, I have to go to the front page and that auto logs in and I then work my way to the latest posts.

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11 years 1 month ago #71823 by dave_lillis
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looks like cant get into the ifas council section either

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11 years 1 month ago #71824 by voyager
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jeyjey wrote:

The fixed-width and always-keep-main-menu visible make for a lot more scrolling (since all the topics end up being formatted narrower and therefore longer). I can certainly see the benefit to new users of always having the main menu up, but perhaps we could abandon the fixed-width part? (Or have the main menu be horizontal above the forum rather than vertical and using space all the way down the infinite-height toilet-paper scroll-space?)

Don't mean to be hen-pecking you guys. Just though you'd like to know the issues I had found.

Cheers,
-- Jeff.


The site is now run on Joomla. If anyone wants to do up a new template then we'll consider installing it. Realistically though, best get used to things the way they are, I don't have the time to re-do the theme and I doubt Darragh does either.

Bugs we'll work on fixing, but we're just volunteers, we're not going to waste our time re-doing something that works.

This place is awfully low on volunteers when it comes to actually DOING things. Lots of ideas, but ask for help and you get silence.

Darragh has poured easily hundreds of hours into this. I haven't done nearly that much, but I don't have any more time to donate. Time for others to step up to the plate.

Bart.

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11 years 1 month ago #71825 by jeyjey
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I'm still on vacation this week, but in general I've got some time. I'm not very literate with current web stuff (it's been years since I worked on web software) -- but I'm a pretty quick study.

Feel free to contact me offline at jey(at)adobe(dot)com.

Cheers,
Jeff Young
Principal Scientist
Forms Architecture Chair
Adobe Systems, Inc.

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11 years 1 month ago #71826 by darragh
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Hi

As Bart as said we have been working lots of hours, trying to deliver a new website with more functionality that will both assist users and also help to promote clubs and their events.

We know we have issues to fix and we are committed to fixing them, but we need to spend the time fixing the big issues not the small nit-picky stuff.

If you would like to help us, in pushing forward, please consider contributing an article for the Articles section. We really need the content and this will be of great benefit to other astronomers.
The move to this new website is both assisting current users and helping new users discover the world of astronomy and we can achieve these goals with your assistance.

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11 years 1 month ago #71835 by jeyjey
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Darragh --

The articles section doesn't indicate what format to submit in. What's easiest for you guys? MHT? PDF? DOCX?

Cheers,
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11 years 1 month ago #71839 by dave_lillis
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voyager wrote:


The site is now run on Joomla. If anyone wants to do up a new template then we'll consider installing it. Realistically though, best get used to things the way they are, I don't have the time to re-do the theme and I doubt Darragh does either.

Bugs we'll work on fixing, but we're just volunteers, we're not going to waste our time re-doing something that works.

This place is awfully low on volunteers when it comes to actually DOING things. Lots of ideas, but ask for help and you get silence.

Darragh has poured easily hundreds of hours into this. I haven't done nearly that much, but I don't have any more time to donate. Time for others to step up to the plate.

Bart.

I know nothing about web design, so I'm no help here.

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #71843 by Seanie_Morris
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I think I can safely say that despite the ominous tone in Bart's post :), we DO appreciate the feedback being given. The site will only become 100% useful when we get the bugs fixed. Patience is a virtue.

However, I would like to stress that some features are lost, or altered e.g. e-mail notifications, avatar displays, and some others, because we have implemented a new boards technology. Comparisons to the old site are not a great way to say to us "oh, I prefer this to that" etc. as a means of getting things done. This new site WILL OFFER MORE than the old site, and the joomla! based content offers more interactivity for IFAS members as can be seen already.

Please understand that the lack of volunteers does not mean we need web developers. It means we would like to see IFAS members use this new site as their heart desires. After all, this Version 2 is only created because the members asked for it.

So please, contribute an article, keep a blog of your club, let us see what you observed last night, and so on. That is the best way you can be supporting the endeavours of the Web Team (especially our workhorse, Darragh).

Thanks,

Seanie.

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11 years 1 month ago #71845 by darragh
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jeyjey wrote:

Darragh --

The articles section doesn't indicate what format to submit in. What's easiest for you guys? MHT? PDF? DOCX?

Cheers,
-- Jeff.


Jeff,

To submit an article use the "Submit an Article" menu under the "User Menu"
This will bring you into a form where you can write your article.
I have updated your rights to publisher, so that you can publish your own articles.

Michael O'Connell has already contributed this article:
Enjar Hertzsprung

If anybody else wishes to write an article, please send me a PM and I'll update your rights to publish your own articles.

If you have articles already written, please send them to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. and we will put them up under your name.

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #71848 by Seanie_Morris
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Addendum

*Clicking on "Announcement" in any particular forum to create a, um, announcement for that forum, comes up with a 'hacking attempt' error.

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11 years 1 month ago #71851 by darragh
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dmcdona wrote:

1. If I subscribe to a thread/forum, it processes the request and then dumps me into my profile page. Odd.

2. The times of posts seem to be 8 hours or so adrift.

3. Text in some of the posts is bleeding into the right hand graduated blue column making it hard to read. That might be my browser (IE 7) but I thought I'd point it out.

4. I seem to have lost my own moniker - I am no longer a red giant, admin or whatever - just a red cross :(


All of these issues are now fixed.
The last issue to be fixed was the subscribing to a post throwing you into the wrong profile.
I have fixed it to automatically bring you back to the thread after 3.5 seconds

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11 years 1 month ago #71852 by darragh
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Seanie Morris wrote:

Addendum

*Make the

box a different colour shade to seperate its text from the body of the post.

Seanie.


This is now fixed, quote box has a grey colour now.

Darragh


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11 years 1 month ago #71853 by darragh
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I have add a plugin that will allow users to manage their forum subscriptions through their profile.
To access this, go into "My Profile" and click on the "Forum" tab.
This will give you a list of current topics you are subscribed to and a list of the last 10 posts that are the topics you have subscribed to.

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11 years 1 month ago #71854 by darragh
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Just a note, if anybody spots a good feature for Joomla(Website) or Fireboard(Forum) they think is useful to the site, please send me a PM with a link to it.
There a lot of extensions for these at http://extensions.joomla.org

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11 years 1 month ago #71860 by jeyjey
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While editing my article I noticed a few things:

The Insert/Edit Image button in the Article editor doesn't work. It always assumes Insert, even when you have an image selected. (I used HTML source to resize my images down to fit, which was OK except that Find starts at the beginning again after every change. These might be FireBoard/Joomla bugs, but I thought I'd mention them anyway.)

On short pages (such as the Articles page), the gray footer clobbers part of the main menu.

When I uploaded the images for my article I couldn't figure out how to create a new folder. So they all went in at the root level (along with Michael's). No problem now, but it won't scale very well....

Cheers,
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11 years 1 month ago #71863 by ro_c
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Long time lurker here and enjoy looking at the excellent images people produce. however, i just arrived in tonight to have a browse and find the main ifas page has been upgraded. great job to the coders behind it, i really like it. however, i have a few grievances with the forum.

please please please bring back the old forum :( this forum is all crushed up on the screen and all the posts with images in them are too wide to be seen so you need to scroll the forum scroller to see them. horrible. i managed to flick through a couple of posts before I had to stop. so annoying. everyone else getting this? also, what with all the ads. i'm sure they are helping pay for the hosting but they really distract and are used far too much imo. i hope i dont sound too negative, the work that has been done is absolutely great but the forum needs to be tweaked a little bit to make it more friendly.

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11 years 1 month ago #71867 by darragh
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ro_c,

The ads are there to assist with generating revenue to pay for the hosting. Hosting doesn't come freely or cheap.
The ads are quite small and don't stand out significantly
We are still working on a solution for the images.
We aren't able to bring back the old boards. It's a one way transfer in terms of the effort, we have spent too many hours to get to this and none of the web team wants to go back.
Anyway, this site may not be to your preferences in terms of appearance while we fix issues but it offers far more functionality and alot more ways for people to get involved than the old boards.
WWhile there maybe some pain for individuals, the community benefits more than it ever could with the older site.
So be a part of the community and help!
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11 years 1 month ago #71873 by Seanie_Morris
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darragh wrote:

this site may not be to your preferences in terms of appearance while we fix issues but it offers far more functionality and alot more ways for people to get involved than the old boards.


Not lest it be mentioned that for some users who had problems with the old boards style have had them 'fixed' with this one. :) Can't please everyone!

Re: the images, we have size guidelines in place concerning width etc. though they were based on the old bards width. They may have to be shrunk by a further 100 pixels here to ensure they fit in future.

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11 years 1 month ago #71875 by darragh
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jeyjey wrote:

While editing my article I noticed a few things:

The Insert/Edit Image button in the Article editor doesn't work. It always assumes Insert, even when you have an image selected. (I used HTML source to resize my images down to fit, which was OK except that Find starts at the beginning again after every change. These might be FireBoard/Joomla bugs, but I thought I'd mention them anyway.)

It's on my todo list

On short pages (such as the Articles page), the gray footer clobbers part of the main menu.

I've now fixed and tested it in Firefox 3 and IE6, I don't have access to IE7 but it works in the other browsers

When I uploaded the images for my article I couldn't figure out how to create a new folder. So they all went in at the root level (along with Michael's). No problem now, but it won't scale very well....

Cheers,
-- Jeff.


I'll try to put a piece together on how to use the article editor in the next few days, that should explain it a little more.

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11 years 1 month ago #71881 by jeyjey
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Darragh --

Cool.

I'll be offline for a couple of days, but I might do a couple more articles when I get back to Ireland. How about an "ATM" section (or can I add Article categories myself)?

Cheers,
-- Jeff.

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11 years 1 month ago #71886 by ro_c
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darragh,

Is there anyway you could leave out the main menu on the left handside and just have the firebird div displaying so then it can use the full screenspace? You could run a horizontal menu across the top of the forum to access the Main Menu / User Menu while using the forum? Just a suggestion.

Cheers for the quick reply. I hope I didnt sound too bitchy about the new stuff, i appreciate all the work you lads have put in. The site is definitely looking better than ever, it would be great if you didnt have to have a workaround and resize the fantastic images people post here even more though.

Ro_c

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11 years 1 month ago #71893 by Seanie_Morris
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ADDENDUM

*Subject line for all posts is very short. Must increase character limit.
*Ampersand symbol (&) appears as "&" in posts existed before migration.

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11 years 1 month ago #71895 by darragh
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Ok, so just to update here is the current list of unresolved issues that we are going to fix in no particular order:
  1. *Subject line for all posts is very short. Must increase character limit.
  2. *Ampersand symbol (& appears as "&" in posts existed before migration.
  3. *Fix profile so that authors can manage articles both published and unpublished
  4. *Max image widths for Images
  5. *The Insert/Edit Image button in the Article editor doesn't work. It always assumes Insert, even when you have an image selected.
  6. *Previous Stickies and Announcements have now become ordinary threads and are thus lost to their place in time
  7. .
  8. *Avatars in the upload directory declared to be no larger than 100pixels wide, yet they are all resized smaller than that in the forums.
  9. *Email alerts for new topics
  10. *When replying to posts, layout become slightly too large right-side of screen i.e. as if too large an image is included somewhere. Appears fine when I go back in to edit the same reply/post.
  11. *Some signature errors. Please let us know if you have Profile problems.
  12. *Space in username causing issues when updating profiles
  13. *hover-only" profile editing - Need to fix styles here
  14. *"remember me" checkbox in the login section doesn't seem to work.
  15. *Need a guide on how to write articles
  16. *Clicking on "Announcement" in any particular forum to create a, um, announcement for that forum, comes up with a 'hacking attempt' error. - Give appropriate users rights to may announcements
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11 years 1 month ago #71906 by Frank Ryan
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I don't know if ye know but the 'search' function of the forum is extremely limited.
Case in point,
I am trying to find a pic Dave L took of the Eclipse in Turkey.
With no 'options' like on the old boards it's impossible.
Any Idea how this could be addressed?

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