Feedback on the new site

11 years 1 month ago #71910 by JohnMurphy
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Well done on the new site.

Don't know if these are bugs or no no's. I use IE7.
1. lots of stuff in my profile is no longer updatable e.g. signature.
2. Date of member since is way out - by a few years.
3. Keeps asking me for a valid username when trying to update my profile.

Sorry if all this has been mentioned before - I'm just back from holiday and too tired to read any more...........

John Murphy - IAS
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11 years 1 month ago #71920 by Seanie_Morris
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John,

your siganture and username issues are the same as mine before due to the nature of our usernmes havig a space in it. Darragh can update the signature for you, but he's on holiers now. We are looking for a fix for the username space predicament.

Seanie.

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Former IFAS Chairperson and Secretary.

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11 years 1 month ago #71939 by jhoare
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This is my first visit since the update (bad weather blues - spent time playing with my cameras). It's quite different and I like it except for one little thing - the fixed page width. It's mighty small on my widescreen.

John

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11 years 1 month ago #71940 by nectarine
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Don't know if anyone else is having this problem but when I went into the private messages section, all the messages in both inbox & outbox were duplicated. I manually deleted all the copies but when I went back in later, they were all duplicated again.
Any ideas on why this is happening and is it the same for other users?

Ta,
Bernie

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #71941 by Calibos
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I'm viewing this on a 19in Monitor at 1280x1024. I would assume this would be an average display and resolution. I also have a 24in 1920x1080 dell and the site is tiny in it like jhoare says, but even on the 19in at 1280x1024 there is about 3inches wasted space either side. Does the site really need to cater for those few with 14in monitors at 800x600??

Iceinspace has similar formatting with the layout of the frames, ie, banner across the top and menu at the side but its obviously been designed with 1280x1024 in mind because it fills my screen.

As the layout stands at the moment its not a major annoyance when posting text as it just means more scrolling in the vertical. However I recently posted some 640x480 images which are not large image sizes by any means and fit within a post on any other forum I have ever frequented in the last 7 or 8 years without introducing horizontal scrollbars. In the current size forum frame they necessitate scrollbars which means having to use the scrollbar to view the full text on all posts in any tread containing 640x480 image sizes and above.

So my question is, do we really need to cater for 14in 800x600 monitor owners?? I would not expect the site to be maximised for 22-24in widescreen owners but I would have thought that 17-20in 1280x1024 was pretty much the average/standard resolution these days and the site should be designed around that res.

If it stays as it is, I think the admins may have to introduce a new size rule for image posting. ie. only thumbnails linking to the full size image opening in another window.

Keith D.

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11 years 1 month ago #71946 by Seanie_Morris
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You kind of need to cater for as many people as possible. For example, I am on a 15.4 inch screen laptop 5 days a week, and on this screen, I have less than an inch of space either side of the main table-top-down format.

We're thinking about creating a second overall template for forum use to maximise screen depth like we were used to in the old boards fashion. It will just take a little time from our work schedules to come up with it.

Again, it is only from feedback that we know what quirks exist, so thanks for posting back guys.

Seanie.

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Former IFAS Chairperson and Secretary.

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11 years 1 month ago #71947 by jeyjey
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Seanie, et al --

Thanks for following up on these issues. It is appreciated.

Cheers,
-- Jeff.

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #71952 by fguihen
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coupple of things guys i dont like on the new site:

1. scrollbars. if a post or image goes outside the bounds of the white/grey center portion of the screen, a horizontal scrollbar is created. this means you cant just scroll with the mouse wheel or down arrow, you have more work to do to read a post. i know its not a lot of work for me to scroll, but its a small thing thats quite irritating in long posts.

2. Admin posts. Please dont take this as me asking ot be in the admin group as i really dont want to, but lately, a lot of the links to posts on the mainpage are by people in the admin group for people in the admin group. generally, il click on the links here to see whats going on. it gets annoying when half the links i click on just bring up a little icon of the admin group but thats it. is there some way that admins can communicate without posting up messages that most users cant even see?

Please take those points as constructive criticism, as thats how they are intended and i do like many elements of the new site.

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11 years 1 month ago #72044 by Frank Ryan
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Let me preface this by saying I both appreciate and understand the time and effort the web team are putting into the new format site but,

If I am to be honest and feedback was asked for,
I find the message board embedded into the site both
visually unattractive and also difficult to use.

Personally, the rest of the site I can deal with but
I really just wish the boards were the same.

The only question I would like you to answer is:
Is it possible to keep your new design for the site and
just link to the boards like we used to?

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #72046 by dave_lillis
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I have to agree with Frank, it's not criticism, just an observation.
Can I ask what has been the posts made per day and threads started per day since the update? On average, it seems to me that the site has come to a grinding halt since the update.

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11 years 1 month ago #72058 by Calibos
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Hard to tell yet I suppose, what with a significant proportion of the most prolific posters galavanting across Siberia and China over the last week or so. :D But I have noticed the same Dave.

As for Franks suggestion about linking back to a fullscreen forum. TBH I don't think there is a need to go that far. The little bugs and glitches I can understand and live with as I know they will be ironed eventually. I can also see the advantage of the current layout. It is used to great affect over on the aussie Iceinspace forums. I think the only problem is the screen real estate devoted to the post/text area of the forum frame caused by the blank frames either side, themselves necessitated to accomodate different user display resolutions. The lads have already acknowledged this and I think they mentioned creating templates for different resolutions, ie the site will interagate the browser for the users display resolution and then deliver a page tailored for that resolution. I think it is just a question of them getting the time to ceate the different resolution templates.

Keith D.

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11 years 1 month ago #72060 by Frank Ryan
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I actually noticed a drop off in new posts and replies also.

Look,
it's like this,
I don't want to go offending anyone
(and God knows this happens when people put time and effort into something)
But the point is that feedback was asked for and I'm giving my 2 cents worth.
There is no malaise in what I'm saying.

I understand that the lads want to grow the site
and create all these other areas.
Fine.

But for me, personally,
I think the message boards are THE most important part of the site.
Like everything else on the web,
when it comes to good design,
a site has to do exactly what it says on the tin,
and within only a few seconds.

If the boards die the site dies.
Thats just how I see it.

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11 years 1 month ago #72061 by Frank Ryan
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I know the layout at the moment is going to change and
that ye are designing it to fit into everyones browser
but I wanted to visually show ye what I mean.
Again lads,
don't take this personally please for gods sake!


I just find the main page very cluttered with stuff like:
''Written by Administrator
Friday, 16 May 2008 09:47''

''Last Updated ( Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:50 )''

The
PDF Print E-mail edit
Icons.

And the uneven segment spacing and
switching of the layout between paragraph style to
double column style.

It just becomes all too much for the eye
(remember folks, the best most successful websites
are the least cluttered! eg Google!)

This is what I like...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3107/2736402333_6d31fbec2b_o.jpg

Clear segmented vertical scrolling / reading.
3 distinct columns.
The one on the left with
Main Menu
User Menu
Moon Phase
Pending Actions

The one on the right with
Login
Who is online
Upcoming events
Recent Classifieds
Observing Challenges

and then the Clear White segment in the center
that has distinct paragraph layout
for the changing content.

My two cents.

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #72062 by PhilipLardner
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Some odd behaviour...

When clicking on one of the "Recent Posts to Forums" on the main IFAS Home page (I clicked on "Re:Speaker Tour by R.Newman") I was directed to a new page "Welcome to Groups... Admin(5)" and not the message I was expecting!

The message address is:
www.irishastronomy.org/forum?func=view&catid=516&id=72057#72057

The Groups page address is: www.irishastronomy.org/index.php?option=com_groupjive#72057

I've come across this type of duff link on the new boards before and thought I'd mention it as it seems to be a reoccurring bug.

Phil.

Edit: PS - The smilies above were inserted by the text boards editor misinterpreting ordinary text!

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #72063 by Calibos
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Frank,

I agree with everything you just said in your last post. I have all the same concerns. My point was that although something needs to be done, I am not sure we need to go all the way back to the bare bones forum structure of the old forum and that I think the guys have acknowledged all our concerns but its just a matter of spare time for them to address each of them.

Have you had a look at iceinspace.com. Same layout as here. ie banner across the top, Menu down the side. Its just its tailored specifically to my resolution and makes full use of all the screen real estate.

To me it works, perfect combination of the feel of our old forum but with the benefits of the new design.

[edit] refers to franks second to last post before this one.

Keith D.

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11 years 1 month ago #72064 by Frank Ryan
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Ice in space is very well designed.
I love the big red
''IceInSpace Astronomy Forums'' image
CURRENTLY SERVING 4,627 REGISTERED MEMBERS AND GROWING...
JOIN US TODAY

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #72067 by Vagelis Tsamis
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Hi,
I agree with Frank, message boards is the most important part.

Clear Skies !

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11 years 1 month ago #72068 by dave_lillis
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Calibos wrote:

Frank,
Have you had a look at iceinspace.com. Same layout as here. ie banner across the top, Menu down the side. Its just its tailored specifically to my resolution and makes full use of all the screen real estate.

Not quite, iceinspace auto fits the entire screen width and doesn't have the big empty space at the end of each post like here, it much more like the old board, its alot more readable.

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but what a way to go. :)
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11 years 1 month ago #72069 by ftodonoghue
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I am afraid I have to agree with Frank also. I appreciate the time that went into the site redesign and trying to accommodate everyone, and I too dont want to offend anyone but I also find the new boards slow and cumbersome and much less user friendly,

The rest of the site is fantastic, and opens up a world of opportunity. Its just the boards that are the weak point.

I wouldn't worry about the level of activity falling off, after all we are in he middle of summer and people are not in front of their pc as much as winter

Cheers
Trevor

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11 years 1 month ago - 11 years 1 month ago #72073 by Calibos
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Dave_Lillis wrote:

Calibos wrote:

Frank,
Have you had a look at iceinspace.com. Same layout as here. ie banner across the top, Menu down the side. Its just its tailored specifically to my resolution and makes full use of all the screen real estate.

Not quite, iceinspace auto fits the entire screen width and doesn't have the big empty space at the end of each post like here, it much more like the old board, its alot more readable.


No, I know the site isn't like Iceinspace yet but the basic layout is the same and that it is just a matter of tweaking this site to get it perfect. Tweaking that the admins acknowledge needs to be done, and will do when they have the time. Tweaking like getting the site to autofill the available resolution, tweaking like setting the default text area allocated to posts smaller.

(ie. Its set at the moment to give a post a minimum area on screen, if you only post a few lines, it still gives the post this minimum area filling the rest with white space, and only if your post goes over the default text area does it not add any extra white space. EG my posts went over the default textarea and I don't have any big chunk of white added to the bottom of my post. Vagelis only posted a line or two and didn't go over the default textarea and thus he had a huge chunk of blank white space added)

I would imagine the post textarea problem is just a matter of tweaking one paraemter and as soon as an admin see's and acknowledges this particular bug it'll be fixed almost imediatly.

Another little thing that would give a little bit of extra space back to the forum width would be making the menu fram a bit thinner. Looks to me that its only the 'Main Menu','User Menu' etc little banners that push that frame width as wide as it is. The actual text links in the Menu only extend to at most 2/3 of the frame. Shorten those menu banners and assuming that left side frame and Forum frame autosizes, well then the forum width just got back 1.5inches on my screen.

I want to clarify that I agree (with Frank too)...with what everyone is saying about usability and my only point is that I don't think everyone needs to preface their posts with appologies. We all think the forum is the most important part and has useability issues currently. I think the admins concede and acknowledge this too and its just a matter of time before they get around to addressing these concerns.

I don't think we need to keep pointing out the resolution and cramped nature of the forums anymore. Its been acknowledged. But I do think we should keep pointing out any of the other bugs we find.

Keith D.

16" Meade Lightbridge Truss Dobsonian with Servocat Tracking/GOTO
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11 years 1 month ago #72074 by Vagelis Tsamis
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Calibos wrote:

But I do think we should keep pointing out any of the other bugs we find.


Hm... I don't like the emoticons :kiss:
See what I mean?
:P

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11 years 1 month ago #72075 by jeyjey
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Actually I think the "minimum post height" and fairly narrow post width are both reflections of having the avatar & user info in a column to the left of the post.

Note that they're across the top of each post in IceInSpace.

-- Jeff.

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11 years 1 month ago #72076 by SeanOSullivan
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Alright folks,
The site looks great and reading through all the other posts I would say all problems will be solved, given time!
I am probably just thick but I haven't recieved any NEW TOPIC NOTIFICATIONS since July the 19th. Is there a button or sign up tab I can hit to recieve the notifications again? Or do have to setup a new account. Any ideas would be much appretiated as I am going through cold turkey for all the astronomy banter. I admit I'm not a huge poster of new topics but I read every new topic that is raised, great stuff!

I know that the administrators just sorted out my account and may be working on the other problem, if so my apologies to them.

Regards
Sean

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11 years 1 month ago #72078 by Calibos
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jeyjey wrote:

Actually I think the "minimum post height" and fairly narrow post width are both reflections of having the avatar & user info in a column to the left of the post.

Note that they're across the top of each post in IceInSpace.

-- Jeff.


Doh!!: :blush: You're quite right Jeff. Looks like thats going to be a little bit more hassle to fix.

Keith D.

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11 years 1 month ago #72085 by Seanie_Morris
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SeanOSullivan wrote:

I am probably just thick but I haven't recieved any NEW TOPIC NOTIFICATIONS since July the 19th. Is there a button or sign up tab I can hit to recieve the notifications again? Or do have to setup a new account.


Hi Sean, we don't have that feature installed yet as far as I know. See here:

www.irishastronomy.org/forum?func=view&id=71800&catid=9

Darragh is working on one though.

Seanie.

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