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Advice on purchasing Large Binoculars

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3 years 9 months ago #109522 by scfahy
Ive been viewing the night skies for a few years with my Celestron CPC800 Go To Scope and while the views are magnificent through the Scope im finding the setup time consuming and the Telescope is quite heavy for me with a dodgy Back, and dont have access to an Observatory. I am looking at selling my Telescope and Accessories and im considering changing to viewing the Night Sky with Large Binoculars. I currently have a Nikon Aculon 8x42 Binoculars and their the first thing i use when viewing the Night sky most nights. The Binocular view is amazing compared to Single EyePiece viewing, and im starting to enjoy again Star Hopping and Looking at Charts compared to the GoTO which just takes you there. .

Ive been looking at a Couple of Binoculars on Telescope Express in Germany.

I have 5 double Sets of Eye Pieces from 9, 12, 15, 22, 30mm that I had with from a Bino Viewer, and I want to use these in a new Large Binoculars.

Are there any experienced people here with Large Binoculars that would have any advice when choosing one. Ive also been looking at a mount for the Binoculars and the one that came up was an Orion Parallelogram as being the most Stable for large Binoculars. Also would you go for a 45 or 90 Deg view Ive read that 45deg is more suitable for Landscape views and the 90deg for Zenith Astronomy Views. Here are two ive been looking at. Any advice appreciated. Most of my viewing is in my Back Garden

TS Optics 70mm App Binoculars with No Mount.

www.teleskop-express.de/shop/product_inf...es-and-90--View.html

Vixen Binoculars BT81S with Fork Mount and Tripod Package

www.astroshop.eu/instruments/vixen-binoc...979#tab_bar_2_select
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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #109528 by emo72
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Hello, I hope you don't mind me piggybacking
Into your thread. I've the exact same question looking for some advice on large binos. The 45 vs 90 degree question is one that vexes me.
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How about the likes of this?

apm-telescopes-englisch.shopgate.com/item/333632373431
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3 years 9 months ago #109529 by scfahy
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What ive read on Cloudy Nights was that  90Deg  is ideal if  your looking straight up to the Zenith mainly, and its less strain on your Neck, but other posters mentioned that  45Deg Eyepieces angle was a good compromise allowing you also do some Terrestrial viewing.  Here is a discussion i found with varying opinions.     www.cloudynights.com/topic/590544-45-or-...ee-100mm-binoculars/   
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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #109530 by emo72
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Thanks for that. It seems 90 is the way to go. What model are you looking at yourself?

Sorry I see the ones you are looking at in your post.
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3 years 9 months ago #109531 by scfahy
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I know APM   Binoculars are top of the range. Id really like to be able to look through a large pair of  Binoculars with my EyePieces  so im not rushing into any purchase as i dont want to purchase equipment that i wont use on a regular basis.  Sofar  just using my   Nikon  8X42  Binoculars and the view with them is magnificent but can be  a strain looking up   at 90deg with these Straight through binoculars.  
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3 years 9 months ago #109533 by Keith g
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Hi guys, I've gone down this route and have never looked back ! I got my APM120's just 4 years ago and the views are spectacular. These are the 90 degree version. I changed from an 8 inch SCT and a triplet APO William optics 110 FLT scope, the SCT is sold, and I barely use the 110FLT anymore.

I also bought a berlebach wooden tripod and the APM fork mount to complete my set up. 

Set up of this is a sinch, it takes me roughly 6-7 minutes, I bring out the tripod, attach the wooden plate sitting under the fork mount to hold the eyepieces and place the APM120's on top with two heavy duty screws. I then attach my LED finder on top and away I go.

The pros:
1. Easy set up time
2. Will take any eyepiece's to suit your views.1.25 inch barrels, spring loaded and locked
3. Superb optics, stars are pinsharp
4. Two eyes are better than one  - period !
5. 90 degree or 45 degree - the choice is yours, I prefer 90, i find it gives greater access to the over all sky
6. Full alt-az control manually, smooth operation in both axes
7. These operate at f5.5, so are quite widefield, but also available in 70 to 100mm

The cons:
1. Are expensive, and need quality eyepieces to get the most from them
2. You need two eyepieces of same focal length
3. Binoculars are 10kg - if you want to call that heavy

I just wish I could bring them to a starparty to show you - once you look through these, you are Sold ;-)

www.apm-telescopes.de/en/binoculars/gian...m-aperture-more.html

I hope that this helps !

Keith..
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