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I was just wondering, is there a body responsible for naming the features on the moon?

The reason I ask is with the passing of Sir Patrick Moore, a man whose accurate moon maps were invaluable for the Apollo moon landings, a fact acknowledged by the astronauts and NASA, I would like to contact them to suggest that a crater be named after Sir Patrick, preferably on the near side, so that he can look down on us.

Any information would be helpful.

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Replied by dmcdona on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Hi Paul - I saw you mention it in the other thread and thought that it was a great suggestion.

Crater nomenclature is goverened by the International Astronmical Union - presumably for craters on other planets/moons too.

He has an asteroid named after him - 2602 Moore - but alas, not a lunar crater. I'm not sure if any other lunar features bear his name...

Great suggestion - worth following up.
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Replied by DaveGrennan on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

The late Brian Marsden would have been a good man to talk to about this. Mike Refern in Galway is Ireland's rep at the IAU. Might be worth getting a petition going and asking Mike to present it to the IAU comission.
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Replied by lunartic_old on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

I just sent an email to the nomenclature section of the IAU with the request, I'll see what reply I get.

Do you have an email address for Mike, Dave?

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Replied by PaulWalsh on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Hi Paul thats a great idea let me know if you need any help with that

Here is the email address I got it from the IAU website

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Replied by lunartic_old on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Thanks Paul, I just sent him an email and we'll see how it goes from there.

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Replied by johnomahony on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Great idea Paul. What could be a more fitting memorial to the great man.
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Replied by lunartic_old on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Mike just got back to me, he sent the email and his reply to Paul Callanan, the chair for our committee for Astronomy & Space Research and the vice chair Peter Gallagher.

I am wondering if there is anyone else that I can contact? I am thinking of Sir Patrick's fellow presenters on The Sky At Night, they would have mor influence tha I ever would.

Good idea or not?

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Replied by dave_lillis on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

I would be surprised if submissions for a crater to be named after him hasnt already been done tbh.
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Replied by lunartic_old on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Me neither, but just in case.

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Replied by lunartic_old on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

I just got a reply from Rita Schulz at the IAU, she informed me that a person has to be deceased for three years for any fature in the solar system to be named after them.

So we will have to wait.

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Replied by eansbro on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

In the days of Wilkins and Moore in the 1950s, Agatharchides A was called Moore, but the IAU did not accept these names. A crater be named Moore would break two IAU nomenclature rules: that lettered craters not be renamed, and that duplication of names is not allowed - another Moore already exists. It is possible that in 3 years the IAU might agree to add Patrick Moore as a person honoured by the existing farside Moore crater.

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Replied by flt158 on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

None of us want Patrick to named on the far side of the Moon. Let us hope some rules are broken and that he gets his name on something like one of the Clavius circle of craters. D, C, and N have no names.

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Replied by Keith g on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Ditto Aubrey, the farside just would not do!

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Replied by dmcdona on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Let us hope some rules are broken

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Aubrey, I fear that the chances of the IAU breaking their rules are as likely as the world ending this coming Friday...

However, I would be very surprised that they would ignore a concerted campaign to have a near-side crater or other lunar feature named after Patrick Moore. But as Eamonn says, that will not be within the next three years.

Of course, another option would be to have a Martian feature named after him. Or a space mission, artificial satellite etc. There are many other things than lunar craters that he can be honoured with.

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Replied by mjc on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Patrick, of course has several pretty decent honours already. But it would be nice to have something on the near-side of the moon either officially named after him - or widely associated with him - even if informally.

Not distracting from any formal naming efforts - but in the best efforts of amateur efforts - why don't the amateur community set itself a challenge to find a near-side feature - that future amateurs can pick out and remember Patrick.
In particular I'm thinking of the best crater with associated mountain range that best visualises a monocle and chain - or anything along these lines.

Seeking (and hopefully finding) such a feature would be a decent amateur challenge in and off itself. Describing it going forward (if a decent feature is found) to future observers in books and commentary might be something that Patrick might have appreciated.

If we can find potatoes with the face of Jesus (well that sort of thing) then I think we can find a feature that can be used to keep Patrick's name alive and well and associated with lunar observing - even if it isn't official. Something that can be well seen with a Newt of no larger than 6" aperture.

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Replied by JohnONeill on topic Re: Naming the Features on the Moon

Hi,

I hope he is not named after an impact site!

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