Lidl Binos

15 years 10 months ago #6634 by ctr
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At the danger that we're becoming an arm of Lidl PR :lol: there is Binos for sale next week. See HERE

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15 years 10 months ago #6635 by albertw
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Wonder what "Blue lenses" means the coating is?

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15 years 10 months ago #6637 by lionsden
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These look to be identical to the binos Aldi did a few weeks ago...

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15 years 10 months ago #6641 by Seanie_Morris
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These look to be identical to the binos Aldi did a few weeks ago...


I agree, they are almost the same shape and design as the Aldi ones. Though, on another forum website, it was entioned that the objective lenses in this years Optus binos sold in Aldi a month or 2 ago are made of plastic. TYhe ones I got 2 years ago are made with glass.

That €5 price difference back then was good value!


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15 years 10 months ago #6645 by lionsden
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Though, on another forum website, it was entioned that the objective lenses in this years Optus binos sold in Aldi a month or 2 ago are made of plastic. TYhe ones I got 2 years ago are made with glass..


I bought the Aldi ones (even though I didn't need them!). I'll bring them to the lecture tonight and we can compare.
They don't appear to be plastic.... :?

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15 years 10 months ago #6646 by John C McConnell
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does anybody know if they are available in the North? I tried phoning them today,blocked solid!!
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15 years 10 months ago #6649 by albertw
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Hi,

Yep thay are available up north.
www.lidl.ie/ie/index_ni.nsf/pages/c.o.oow.20041213.index

Cheers,
~Al

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15 years 10 months ago #6650 by John C McConnell
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Hi Al,
many thanks!
just in time for our EAAS meeting tonight.

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15 years 10 months ago #6656 by dave_lillis
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If they're glass lenses, and there isnt too much distortion, then they're worth it.
And they have a zoom from 8 to 24X, was that in the previous binos?

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15 years 10 months ago #6663 by gnason
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Are you guys getting these Lidl binoculars for daytime use? They don't look too good for astronomy. Blue lenses!!! What's that, blue tinted glass? There is no mention of coatings at all so presumably light transmission is down and lens flare may be a problem! Zoom binoculars (especially cheap ones) are not as good as single mag. binoculars. Bak 7 is made from Crown glass so at least the lenses are not plastic but Bak 4 is best for astronomy. Would it not be best to save the €20 and put it towards a decent pair of binoculars?

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15 years 10 months ago #6670 by Seanie_Morris
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Are you guys getting these Lidl binoculars for daytime use? They don't look too good for astronomy.
Would it not be best to save the €20 and put it towards a decent pair of binoculars?

Gordon


Gordon,
you are right, but I suppose it is all relative to each person.

For example, I got a pair the first year they came out (over 2 years ago). Mine are the Optus 8-24 X 50 zoom, and they are great for astronomy. The lenses are glass, and coated (red), there appears to be no diffracction as far as mine and other viewers eyes could pick up, no aberration, and very clear sharp images either astronomically or during daytime use.

Even if these ones on sale now are made with plastic or similar lenses, there is nothing to stop you from looking through them in store. If one decides to do this, they should note if they see any blueish tinge effects when looking through them - aberration. You will know what I mean, if you don't know what I am talking about, but see it for yourself!

And while we are on it, I did some shopping in Aldi last night before the TAS meeting (but I forgot to mention it then!) that there were about 20 pairs of the exact same binoculars in Aldi, as the ones seen in the Lidl brochure - same grips and all.

It kind of renforces my belief that products sold in Lidl and Aldi are in fact made by the big companies but probably as Grade B stuff - For example, there is a Draper Tools tool kit with sockets, screwdriver and bits, pliers and wire clippers, and a jewel screw driver set for sale in the hardware section in Tesco... the exact same box and pieces (colours and all) were sold in Aldi in August (I have them) under the name Workzone!

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15 years 10 months ago #6675 by cobyrne
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I've just made a quick visit to Aldi in Parnell Street, and I spotted a 76mm (I think) reflector telescope on an altazimuth stand. I didn't take a good look at it.

More info from the IFAS Aldi and Lidl optical supply intelligence network! :)

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15 years 10 months ago #6676 by Lexi
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My cousin lives in Germany and she told me that both Aldi & Lidl is owned by two bothers who had a fall out :evil: one owns Aldi, the other Lidl she said there family fall out is that bad that no matter where an Aldi store opens a Lidl is not too far behind :twisted: which I guess is why they sell similar stuff too..

Not sure how true it is but thought I'd add it in.

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15 years 10 months ago #6681 by Seanie_Morris
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Lexi,
I think you're right!

I went out with a Dutch bird some years ago, and she told me the same thing. Lidl and Aldi are Dutch/German companies, and most of their stock is made there.


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15 years 10 months ago #6682 by michaeloconnell
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"a bird" you say, yea??? :wink:

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15 years 10 months ago #6686 by johnflannery
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My cousin lives in Germany and she told me that both Aldi & Lidl is owned by two bothers who had a fall out one owns Aldi, the other Lidl she said there family fall out is that bad that no matter where an Aldi store opens a Lidl is not too far behind which I guess is why they sell similar stuff too..


I heard the same. Similar story to Puma and Adidas. . . . now if Bill Gates had a brother into "a bit of software" as well???

John

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15 years 10 months ago #6687 by Seanie_Morris
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"a bird" you say, yea??? :wink:


yes... a little birdie... why?

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15 years 10 months ago #6689 by stepryan
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My cousin lives in Germany and she told me that both Aldi & Lidl is owned by two bothers who had a fall out one owns Aldi, the other Lidl she said there family fall out is that bad that no matter where an Aldi store opens a Lidl is not too far behind which I guess is why they sell similar stuff too..


I heard the same. Similar story to Puma and Adidas. . . . now if Bill Gates had a brother into "a bit of software" as well???

John


john,
as far as i am aware the devil cannot have a brother :wink: .
stephen,

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15 years 10 months ago #6694 by michaeloconnell
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"a bird" you say, yea??? :wink:

yes... a little birdie... why?
:lol:

she flew off on you then, yea? :wink:

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15 years 10 months ago #6695 by Seanie_Morris
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"a bird" you say, yea??? :wink:

yes... a little birdie... why?
:lol:

she flew off on you then, yea? :wink:


I'm not going down this road on a public forum!

:lol:


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15 years 10 months ago #6699 by dave_lillis
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"a bird" you say, yea??? :wink:

yes... a little birdie... why?
:lol:

she flew off on you then, yea? :wink:


I'm not going down this road on a public forum!

:lol:


Seanie.


was probabily after been out all night "looking at the stars" :D
who'd believe such an reason :wink: :wink:

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15 years 10 months ago #6704 by Seanie_Morris
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sayin' nuthin'.....


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15 years 10 months ago #6710 by michaeloconnell
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:P

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15 years 10 months ago #6814 by albertw
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From Terry:


Some people have been asking me about the binoculars featured in the next Lidl Special Offer, available from Monday 13 December.
These are 8-24 x 50 zoom, costing £19.99 in N.I., and according to the website €19.99 in ROI (not fair!).
I obviously haven't seen them yet, but I'm not sure that they would be good for astronomy. For a start, zoom binocs are generally not ideal for astronomy, as the extra zoom lens elements degrade the image by the extra internal reflections and scatterings. Secondly, it costs more to produce the zoom elements & mechanism, so if they are still keeping the price low, the quality must be suffering somewhere! (Although I must say that the quality of all their other optical items has always been quite good. I've had various good reports on their two bargain telescopes, recently featured.) Third, the zoom mechanism is one more part to go wrong, although they are of course covered by guarantee.
The glass type (I presume for the prisms) is quoted as BK7, which isn't quite as good as the usual BAK4 (but it's still acceptable). It says that the lenses are 'blue', which I presume is an anti-reflection coating, but it doesn't indicate if it's multi-coating, or broadband, or full multi-coating, etc, etc. You would need to read what's on the box to be sure.
But my most serious reservation is the small field of view, which is 78m at 1000m, or just about 4.5 degrees, at 8x. Most 8x binocs would have a FOV of about 8 degrees; my 10x50's have a 7 degree field. So 4.5 degrees is really quite small, giving the impression of 'looking down a tunnel'. And the FOV will decrease considerably with higher zoom magnification.
They do have a tripod socket at the front of the centre bar, but it doesn't say whether a tripod adaptor is included.
They look well enough made from the photo, but it's impossible to say until you actually see & hold & try them. A case, strap, & lens caps are included.
So my advice would be not to rush to buy them first thing on Monday - if I get a chance I'll check out a pair 'in the flesh', and report further if I think they're worth considering.
They might be OK for birdwatching, especially at the ROI price of €19, but you would need a tripod to use them at x15 or more.
Or at that price you might like to split them into two high-power finders for your telescopes! If the zoom elements are not actually integral with the eyepieces, you could dispense with them and probably get a larger FOV. But attempt that at your own risk!

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